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FFS!!! New tyre lowside........

Joined Oct 2010
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Bristol
maldroid - you're not alone.....

Had new Dunlop Sportsmarts fitted on Wednesday and did about 5 miles riding home. Today I had to pop into work for a couple of hours so decided to take the T and go for a spin afterwards to scrub the new tyres in.

Warmed the bike up on the drive, got on, up the slight hill, tight left turn in front of my house (we're on a corner plot) - quick look to check nothing's coming, lean it in and start to open it up........ back starts coming round - fast but in that slow motion "ohhhhhh shiiiiiit" kind of way. Bike does a complete 180 and goes down with me underneath it.

I was lucky really, damage isn't too bad - small scrapes on l/h can and link pipe, belly pan and oil tank cover scratched (look ok-ish after back to black applied), lump out of l/h side of radiator (needs wet and dry and some matt black model paint I reckon), gear lever bent (ordered new one for £30), bar end and end of gold CRG clutch lever scuffed. No damage to my clobber but I'm aching a bit now and quite stiff.

So I got off quite lightly in the circumstances, but the bike's only 8 months old and I always like to keep my bikes immaculate. Arse. :thumbdown Still, if you ride bikes you're always going to fall off sometimes, I'd rather it was at 10mph with nothing solid to hit.

In future I think I'll time new tyre fitting so that I have a few hours afterwards to scrub them in properly, that way when I ride the bike again I don't have to worry about binning it.

On the bright side, my new carbon fibre side panels (to replace the ***** floppy standard ones) arrived today and are now fitted and look great :thumbup
 
Ooops G, glad yer ok and the bike don't really need a lot of fixin.
 
Cheers Aldo. Yeah, I'm pissed right off, but it could have been a lot worse.

Been riding for close on 30 years and whenever I've heard about people binning it on new tyres I've always thought muppets - not hard to go easy for a 100 miles or so to scrub 'em in.

Now I know how easy it is to do. :banghead
 
So Tyres still not scrubbed in then huh Giles? Guessing u went straight back home after. Well i still have to scrub my feckers in and was going to go out tomorrow on them but might give it a while till it warms up.
 
Bad luck Gilo, just cold tyre or summit else like deisel ??

Just cold (and more importantly new) tyre. You can see the marks on the tyre where it let go and slid - all on virgin rubber (only the middle 6" of the tyre was at all scrubbed in). I was going steady too, as I always do on cold tyres.

I've proper knackered the road surface outside me house too - two really deep gouges in the tarmac, must have been the gear lever digging in I guess.
 
So Tyres still not scrubbed in then huh Giles?

Nope. Did about 15 miles after popping into work but still have about 4" chicken strips each side - guess I was taking it a tad steady after this morning's shenanigans..
 
do you reckon crash bungs would have helped, been weighing up the pro's and cons myself, still havn't made my mind up !
 
Dave.

In a low speed off, crash bungs will pay for themselves.
Medium speed it's 50/50 they might save you a bill - unless the bike hits something solid, in which case nothing will save it.
In a high speed off, the bike usually tumbles, and nothing will save it.

These pictures are of my Tuoldo after a 50-60mph lowside at Mansfield Corner, Cadwell Park. As you can see the lower frame bung held the bike off the tarmac, meaning the damage was all cosmetic, and just cost a few bob in replacing bars, levers and a panel.

Crashed_1.jpg

Front_Crash_bung.jpg

Rear_crash_bung.jpg
 
Gilo.

Sorry to hear about the spill, glad you're OK.

hope the P&J isn't too badly scuffed
 
I want to get some of the lower ones near the footpegs. Easy to fit bat

Royal *******s to be honest. Nothing technical, but the nut on the inside sits in a groove on the top rear of the gearbox and is a real ***** to line up with the stud. If you get it cross threaded, it is almost impossible to get it back off and it will not tighten properly.

It requires patience and a small ring spanner on the inside, a ratchet on the outside.

Oh, and dont re-use the Aprilia nut, the R&G stud is a different thread pitch.
 
what a pisser....I hope you have a cat or summat that you can kick around for a while until the depression lifts...
 
I want to get some of the lower ones near the footpegs. Easy to fit bat

As bat says the right hand lower one is a real pig to fit especially with muckle hands like mine

The way I would recommend is the use an extension bar with a swivel mount and socket with two peeps

The first guy uses the extension etc to place the nut in the right place then the other guys winds in the bolt

It was easy that way once i spent ages trying to do it myself

And be carefull if its R&G's the bungs are different for each side
 
Been there,done that meself.:banghead
Ducati 999 and new Dunlops.On my way to a mate that had some free tickets to the weekends BSB>Set off at my normal lick and the rear tyre let go without warning,...must have travelled all of 4m.Damage to the bike,..footrest hanger completely ripped off,..footrest and brake lever wrecked,...knackered lower fairing.Bollocks!:crazy
 
do you reckon crash bungs would have helped, been weighing up the pro's and cons myself, still havn't made my mind up !

Not sure tbh Dave. As I said, I think I went down under the bike and saved it from worse damage. That said, I reckon I'll be getting some!
 
Bloody hell G Min. It wiz bad enuff tae hear aboot Mal dude binnin his noo it u.

Ah think Tuonos are kinda prone to this sort o low speed off. Somethin tae do wi the geometry mibbe? Theres been a few times ahv been low speed and turnin quickly, say fur example like rollin oot at a junction and the backs skipped oot fur nae reason, an nae wi much throttle or new tyres either! Mibbe its the same effect that ye can get when thir parked oan the stand, if ye push doon oan the bars a bitty the rear can step oot a couple o inches. Try it an ye will see whit a mean.
 
Keith - it did occur to me that on a faired bike the damage would have been a lot worse. Even if a fairing didn't crack it would be scratched to buggery - expensive as hell, and if you go s/h no guarantee the colours will match exactly.

Another reason naked bikes rock :thumbup
 
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