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dude.........
WTF

i can understand if your pissed with the bike but your then gonna fix it and sell it??????

then your your gonna but an astra turbo!!!! are you mad ? the turbos are weak as hell on them, trust me! ive fought over this subject many times! out of the frying pan into the fire!!

dont do it dude....dont do it!!!

griff
 
Hmmmm... they arent all that bad, i did most of my apprentaship with Vauxhall and the Z20LET was just coming about then, derived from the 20XE Ecotech lump which is pretty bullet proof, not like the old C20LET in the Calibra Turbo which was pretty gash after a few years when the head started going pourous.

Anywho... Im pretty good with Turbo maintenance, i'd much rather the Astra than something like an old 200sx. and even if the Turbo gives up on it, they are pretty cheap and a lot of people seem to favour the newer VXR spec turbines.

Griffer i'll give you a call tomorrow as im gonna need bits for the Mille
 
Hmmmm... they arent all that bad, i did most of my apprentaship with Vauxhall and the Z20LET was just coming about then, derived from the 20XE Ecotech lump which is pretty bullet proof, not like the old C20LET in the Calibra Turbo ... blahblahgblah

Mate, it's still a 'kin Astra! At least if you're going to ditch one of the most charismatic motorcycles ever built for a car, at least make it a decent one!
 
Mate, it's still a 'kin Astra! At least if you're going to ditch one of the most charismatic motorcycles ever built for a car, at least make it a decent one!

I realise you arent going to see my point of view, im sure i will return to bikes soon, i just regret ever buying this RSVR as its been a total waste of time and burnt a big hole in my bank balance...

I'd be happier if someone bought the Arrow pipes off me though :devious
 
Well today i cracked it open, gave up for the night as had to go to work... Fly wheel will be coming off tomorrow!!

Cheers for the chat today Griff, give me a shout when your down my way!
 
Well today i cracked it open, gave up for the night as had to go to work... Fly wheel will be coming off tomorrow!!

Cheers for the chat today Griff, give me a shout when your down my way!

You'll soon realise mate we won't let you go that easily.

Once you have it up and running again you'll change your mind, no way is an Astra Turbo gonna accelerate like your RSV.

FFS I was a TVR test pilot for many years and still smile when I throw my leg over the RSV.

PS. If you're gonna sell it wait till the weather improves, you'll get more money for it.
 
he's not gonna sell it boys! We had a chat today!

the man from somerset........he said yes!!!

im gonna help fix that bad boy, if he needs it then were gonna go forra ride down to see him and jewel then go forra tear up!!!

if he gets lucky we might take it easy on him while were there! Astra indeed!

keep me posted big man, when i drop that bike off i'll drop by i promise!

griffer!
 
Ayyye, well done Griff.
WT, if you want to crack on and need the puller and crankshaft locking bolt, give me a shout and I can meet you half way (I'm in Amesbury) or post them to you.
 
Ayyye, well done Griff.
WT, if you want to crack on and need the puller and crankshaft locking bolt, give me a shout and I can meet you half way (I'm in Amesbury) or post them to you.

Mate that would be awesome! I'll happily pay the postage on them.

Does anyone have a picture/technical diagram of the locking possitions etc? that would be a great help.

Griffer... :pirate:pirate:pirate lol Astra Indeed :nana

amb67... I know what you are saying, but its a totally different experience rather than just the speed, after all one of the most fun bikes i've had was a Supermoto!!
 
Gonna keep saying to myself... Ahhhhhhhhhh it'll be allllriiiiiiight!!! :devious

If you can spanner you will be ok, have a look at that thread in the post previous and it should all come together.....:thumbup
 
If you can spanner you will be ok, have a look at that thread in the post previous and it should all come together.....:thumbup

Which thread was that mate?

I think the hardest bit for me is gonna be handing my ******* wallet over to a dealer for the parts :rant

I do hear rumours of some BMW bits fitting though and i hear they go cheap but this is something i will need to look into!
 
Mate that would be awesome! I'll happily pay the postage on them.

Does anyone have a picture/technical diagram of the locking possitions etc? that would be a great help.

Griffer... :pirate:pirate:pirate lol Astra Indeed :nana

amb67... I know what you are saying, but its a totally different experience rather than just the speed, after all one of the most fun bikes i've had was a Supermoto!!

WT, PM me your address and I'll get them in the post ASAP.
I'll also find the info on the BM sprag I used and let you have it.
 
WT. Here’s a bunch of stuff culled from postings during from my sprag episode. I’m also mid-way through writing up some tips I picked up – I’ll post them for you when I get back tonight (at work today:angry).
I know you’re a tech so please excuse if I’m teaching you to suck eggs in any of this.

First off all – check this out:

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155882


It’s most likely that the sprag and the housing are the damaged bits – the housing may look OK (just a few wear marks on mine) but it’s worth changing – unfortunately no one has yet found an alternative to the Aprilia part.
The sprag itself you can use the BM part –

http://www.motorworks.co.uk/bmw/products/product.php?f=b&bke=bmw&q=ENA57177


Part No. ENA57177

But you have to either fit it the ‘wrong way’ or rebuild it (simple but delicate job) so that the ‘balls’ lock the other way. You might find it a bit cheaper than from motorworks but they are reliable blokes and got it to me next day.
It’s about £58 quid plus postage – you can also use the Ducati sprag but it’s about £100 – don’t know whether the Ducati sprag runs the same way.

Aprilia Sprag - UK183
Ducati Sprag - UK100
BMW Sprag - UK55
Says Kiwi.


Notes:
Royton at REPS (http://www.repsmotorcycles.co.uk/) gave me the low-down on the BMW sprag.
If you assemble the sprag the way the Aprilia one comes out (with the flange trapped between the flywheel and outer housing) it will lock the wrong way (which I might have seen if I’d taken notice of the direction arrow on it!).
The BM part (and, Royston reckons, the Ducati part as well) has a smaller, tabbed flange which looks like it should fit in the milled recess on the back of the sprag housing.
Royston reckons he fits them the other way, with the tabbed flange between the large drive gear and the housing. He says he’s done several this way and at least one local bike he knows of is still starting strong three years later (the others he hasn't had back so ...).
To my relief, he also says that when he first used the BM part, he rebuilt the sprag to run the other way – just as I did – and it was fine.
The other query I had was the spring clip. The Aprilia part has small slots for the castellations on the clip to fit into: The BM part (and, according to Royston, the Ducati part also) just has gaps in the bearing cage, so gives no positive lateral location (you’ll understand what I’m on about if you see one). Royston says ‘it’s not going anywhere so don’t worry’ and he’s done enough of them to know.

I’m assuming that is a BMW part number (anyone confirm?) as opposed to a Motorworks one but anyway, it’s just a sprag clutch for a BMW F650 (circa 98, 99, Royston said, if you want to be specific).
You may find it even cheaper than this but I’ve dealt with Motorworks before (er, 1989 actually) and they’re top blokes – had this in stock and got it to me next day (think it was about 65 quid with postage).

For the housing and gasket, I tried the usual suspects who were very nice but quoted around 5-7 days from Aprilia – and we all know about Aprilia parts delivery times. So I phoned Speedaway Motorcycles www.speedaway.co.uk and they had both housing and gasket to me next day.

For the locking tool I used an M8 x 100mm plain bolt from my local engineering supplies place. The hole is in the r/h (as you sit on the bike) side just behind the oil pressure (?) switch at the bottom of the engine. The blanking bolt on mine was a gold allen headed bolt.
Get a socket on the flywheel then lay under the bike and ‘feel’ the bolt into the recess on the crankshaft.

You’ll need plenty of heat – about ten minutes with a blow torch on the centre boss until I saw the loctite start to drip out, then it should crack off with a breaker bar without too much trouble.

You’ll need Loctite 648 for the flywheel taper when you rebuild it – I bought a big bottle and it ain’t cheap so I might be able to decant enough into a smaller one if you want me to send you the tools. Let me know.

If you’re worried about using a non-Aprilia part, I did mine just before I went to Spain for four days of track abuse and it is fine (touchwood!).

Hope this helps.
 
A303, well put together mate.

Invaluable bit of work you've done for all the lazy buggers who are unfamiliar with the 'Search' option. LOL
 
Thanks Alan. Keep meaning to write it up and submit it to the How To section but everytime I get on the 'puter the kids climb onto my lap and demand to see more videos of trains on You Tube - what a life eh?
 

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