Joined Oct 2010
3K Posts | 1+
Bristol
**** Newells, soon as saw your thread title my blood ran cold - then I read it and got the sweats - literally. Just started to take my 9 yr old daughter out on the back and she loves it. It's great having her come along but the thought of anything going wrong scares the **** outta me. She doesn't weigh a lot so it's easy to semi-forget she's there and give it more of a handful than I should. Bit too close to home to read what happened to you and Lucie.
Hope Lucie heals fast and hasn't been put off bikes, and you get over the stress of it too. Like many have said, you did nothing wrong.
Hope Lucie heals fast and hasn't been put off bikes, and you get over the stress of it too. Like many have said, you did nothing wrong.
hope your both ok, had it happen to me with the misses only I lost the front on mud and we both went sliding down the road, she's never really wanted to get back on after that.
Joined Oct 2010
698 Posts | 23+
burnham on sea
Sorry to hear about this Newelly , as people have said before ... dont beat yourself up mate , sometimes **** just happens and theres nothing you can do .
Hope lucie heals quickly ( kids do ) and wants to get back on the bike with you .
Chin up mate !
Hope lucie heals quickly ( kids do ) and wants to get back on the bike with you .
Chin up mate !
Joined Oct 2010
131 Posts | 0+
West Midlands
Just read the thread really sorry to here Lucie was hurt. It's easy for me to say but never regret anything and don't blame yourself we all have to live our lives and you just don't know what is round the corner. My lad hurt his coccyx while inline blading outside the house - landed heavily on the kerb - two weeks later he did it again and ended up in hospital. Make each moment you live the best it can be
Best wishes to you all I am sure Lucie will get well soon
Best wishes to you all I am sure Lucie will get well soon
Joined Jul 2009
2K Posts | 21+
5A
hope she,s back to sorts soon pal.
gotta be megga careful with the younguns, its very tempting cos they love it..
My girl (23) wouldnt even think of takin her on the bike....... feckin stupid she is.
The lad ( now 19) different ball game, had him on the back with me from being 7... always perfect no probs.
then at 13yrs, leaving oulton park after bsb, thousands of bikes leaving at once, my 1200 bandit with race cans......................
1st roundabout i felt a weight on my shoulder, checked mirror, and saw his face, eyes closed, fast asleep and sliding down my right side, just managed to hol him up..
stopped on the road and bitch slapped him back to life.... well scary moment..
what i,m saying is, only you know when the younguns are ready...
and at the moment everyones saying its not your fault and dont feel guilty....... but at the end of the day pal, it is your responsability... just as if my lad had fell.
in my humble opinion, i dont agree with kids on bikes at all, my lad didnt come on the back with me again until he was 17... only you know when yours are ready... mine wasnt.
gotta be megga careful with the younguns, its very tempting cos they love it..
My girl (23) wouldnt even think of takin her on the bike....... feckin stupid she is.
The lad ( now 19) different ball game, had him on the back with me from being 7... always perfect no probs.
then at 13yrs, leaving oulton park after bsb, thousands of bikes leaving at once, my 1200 bandit with race cans......................
1st roundabout i felt a weight on my shoulder, checked mirror, and saw his face, eyes closed, fast asleep and sliding down my right side, just managed to hol him up..
stopped on the road and bitch slapped him back to life.... well scary moment..
what i,m saying is, only you know when the younguns are ready...
and at the moment everyones saying its not your fault and dont feel guilty....... but at the end of the day pal, it is your responsability... just as if my lad had fell.
in my humble opinion, i dont agree with kids on bikes at all, my lad didnt come on the back with me again until he was 17... only you know when yours are ready... mine wasnt.
Joined Oct 2010
1K Posts | 0+
midlands
There my friend is the conundrum
She's always been an alert, participative and responsive pillion. She loves nebbing about and at slow speeds I can usually hear her singing away to herself.
On this occasion ... the moment of levity, 5mph speed and bizarre circumstances conspired against us.
At the end of the day the tumble was down to me ... I opened the throttle ... not her and I will NEVER forget seeing her planted in the road or the terror as I threw myself off and ran / stumbled into the road to shield her from traffic; ****** nightmare; literally.
If she wants to ride again I wont stop her but I 100% guarantee that before ever setting off she is either connected to me by shared belt, has a top box / rack behind her or that we have a permanent intercom running.
Lucie is my youngest daughter and probably my closest friend.
One day other people will expose her to risk.
This particular ****-up was down to me ... if in 5 years a boyfriend mirrored the accident I could either shrug and say "learn from it and move on". ... batter him ... shoot him ... or try to split them up.
If ever he did it again then option #1 has failed and we move into option #2
**** knows.
Isn't life a rich and interesting tapestry of events?
I would like to hope things like this only appear once.
Im away out for an assessed ride with West Mercia Police in June and I will tell them about this terrible chapter of my life in the hope that others may learn from it ... and that they can pass it on as a salutory lesson in "not taking things for granted"
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Joined Oct 2010
3K Posts | 1+
Fook knows
Joined Oct 2010
1K Posts | 0+
midlands
cheers nob ... I'm on the phone tomorrow to place an order.
Still cant see the point after 30 years of biking to have a grab handle behind a pillions arse?!
Physics suggests the handle should be infront ... forcing a possibly weak pillion to rely on triceps or arm bar to prevent tippage?
This is why I bought a set of (excellent) love handles
I've had Matt on the back (not sexually) and power wheelied in 1st 2nd and third ... and the handles were spot on.
Ironically I think I may end up with a full rack + pack with feck all in it!
Still cant see the point after 30 years of biking to have a grab handle behind a pillions arse?!
Physics suggests the handle should be infront ... forcing a possibly weak pillion to rely on triceps or arm bar to prevent tippage?
This is why I bought a set of (excellent) love handles
I've had Matt on the back (not sexually) and power wheelied in 1st 2nd and third ... and the handles were spot on.
Ironically I think I may end up with a full rack + pack with feck all in it!
Joined Feb 2010
210 Posts | 0+
Dormansland, Surrey, UK
Blimey, Newelly. Just read your post. I've got two daughters, one about to start to learn to drive - that terrifies the life out of me. Neither have been on the back of my bike but that's not because they don't want to - they do; just haven't bought any gear for them.
You're both mostly OK, and that's all that matters.
You're both mostly OK, and that's all that matters.
Joined Aug 2009
5K Posts | 62+
Sunderland
Bad news mate. My wife & 1 of my daughters come on the back of my bike. I worry every time we are out. Years ago I pulled away from a junction, and to avoid an idiot not looking in his car, had to accelerate quickly. I saw my wifes legs come up either side of my face and **** a brick. I thought she was coming off and shut off. Thankfully she stayed on, but ever since then I ride like a fanny with a passenger now. And the daughter has just taken her CBT and wants a bike of her own. More bloody worry
jeeesus mate thats scary.
hope she's better soon and ur both back on the bike enjoying life.
hopefully you,ll both be laughing about it in the near future.........
hope she's better soon and ur both back on the bike enjoying life.
hopefully you,ll both be laughing about it in the near future.........
Joined Oct 2010
1K Posts | 0+
midlands
thanks for all the feedback guys and for your concern.
Lucie and I are touched by the way the herd gathered round - like elephants.
She is much recovered although still very sore 5 days after the off.
I haven't broached the subject of a ride together although with broken clutch lever (on order) I cant ride anyway.
Spoke to Ventura today and a full set of racks, bars and pack is about £260 ...
I'm watching a full set on e-bay but the L bars are for a KTM so I'd need to splash £102 to swap them
One of my salesmen told me today that recently he took his 14 year old out on the back of his Ducati and in similar circumstances ... having shouted "hold on ... " he opened the throttle ... his lads feet shot up under riders arms ... shut throttle .... clash of lids ... both shocked and "dont tell mum"
I guess its easy to forget the sheer brute force and acceleration of a bike in comparison to a car?
Lucie and I are touched by the way the herd gathered round - like elephants.
She is much recovered although still very sore 5 days after the off.
I haven't broached the subject of a ride together although with broken clutch lever (on order) I cant ride anyway.
Spoke to Ventura today and a full set of racks, bars and pack is about £260 ...
I'm watching a full set on e-bay but the L bars are for a KTM so I'd need to splash £102 to swap them
One of my salesmen told me today that recently he took his 14 year old out on the back of his Ducati and in similar circumstances ... having shouted "hold on ... " he opened the throttle ... his lads feet shot up under riders arms ... shut throttle .... clash of lids ... both shocked and "dont tell mum"
I guess its easy to forget the sheer brute force and acceleration of a bike in comparison to a car?
Joined Mar 2011
180 Posts | 0+
Thanks for posting a follow up, I'm glad to hear both Lucie and your (good) self are both on the mend.
