The law and riding abroad or should that be tryin not to get nicked in Germany !

pointer rsv said:

i have been told if correct or not but the the police in europe have already started to talk to one another about the lads who go over the boarder speeding then go back:eatcorn and that info came from relatives in holand:dunno if its true or not

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Funnily enough, I was reading that UK cops are being sent out with French traffic cops because of the high number of UK motorists going balistic and being involved in a high number of accidents on French soil..(Daily Mail..sorry)

Dunno, get zapped by a camera and you wont here ****. At least I didn't anyway

mark58 said:

Funnily enough, I was reading that UK cops are being sent out with French traffic cops because of the high number of UK motorists going balistic and being involved in a high number of accidents on French soil..(Daily Mail..sorry)

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read the same my self as i have said before the fookers are starting to work together

Since when did the English & French ever co-operate with each other...sounds like an urban myth to me...i would say that you would have to get busted doing something close to insane before they hunt you back home, surely!
For Germany, suggest carrying a little spare ready cash for the graft.

Jacko,

I've spent 10 years living in Germany, and this is my experience:

All the speed cameras in Germany are head-on Truvelo type, so you're safe from being caught by them. The German Police/Civil Authority (like "Safety Camera Partnership") have speed camera vans, but they're also head-on style so again, you're safe, and the German Police don't seem to have a proper Traffic Division.

The main things are:

1. not all Autobahns are derestricted: especially around junctions (and in the Ruhr area) they're often limited to 100kph...as long as you don't go through at Mach 2 you should be alright.

2. filtering is illegal, so just watch yourself in towns and cities and make sure the cops aren't lurking.

The only way they got me was because my car was registered to me in Germany...they never got me on the bike...

Finally, keep a sharp look-out in your mirrors. More than once I'd be hammering along at 150-plus and find an RS4 or M5 in close formation, and they've got a lot more wind protection!

Go for it!

AusRSV said:

Since when did the English & French ever co-operate with each other...sounds like an urban myth to me...
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Good point AusRSV. They wouldn't collaborate to save their own lifes. Let's hope they keep like this :doug

I rekon you pommies.ah er English folk will be right with that for sometime to come..takes years to implement a system that even remotely intergrates with each other.

What you should know

Just for my few eggs worth. I have had several "incidents" in the past 12 months whilst riding in Europe. Please note the following and learn from my experience (and expense)

i) Germany. Great place to ride, police are pretty low key. They tend to operate a lot on the motorways. They expect you to obey the speed limit. On the unrestricted autobahn, you are ok to do what you want as long as you dont ride like a ***. Highly recommended for the excellent roads and low amounts of traffic.
ii) Switzerland. Do not f**k with the traffic laws at all. Do not speed, do not break other laws. For example, last July me and my mates got done in Switzerland for undertaking on the motorway. This involved a 3 hour visit to the police station and being lightened to the tune of £550 each. Yes, just for undertaking. If we had been speeding as well, fine would have been about £2000 - and yes, those efficient swiss police take plastic.
iii) France. Generally, you can still get away with going ballistic. HOWEVER, do not do this near the ferry ports or the roads leading to them. Generally speaking, when you are on peage (toll roads), you can do what you want and you have very small chance of hitting speed traps. It is complete bollocks about this urban myth that they time you from one toll booth to another I have proved this many times (like average of 143mph over a distance of 87 miles) - the toll attendant did not even bat an eyelid. BE CAREFUL though - if you do get caught then the risks are high. Earlier this year when on the way back from the Nurburgring, I was faced with a speed trap near Le Havre when I was doing about 155mph (the speed limit was 110kph). I hit the brakes, they gunned me at 170kph. At the road side we had some serious negotiations because in France, the law is that if you are caught over 50kph over the limit, you lose your license and the bike. Whilst losing the license counts for nothing in UK, it is very expensive and inconvenient to get the bike back. Generally, the police are ok and in the end I talked myself down to a 90 EUR fine.

The net is definitely closing, it will not be long before these type of antics are completely not possible....

Crikey..its really like running the gauntlet if you dare to tap that throttle unbeknown in the wrong place. *****

Agree with RSVNutter.......as I've already posted here in this thread, the average speed between toll booths is a complete bollocks urban myth!!!! I repeat they nick you for speeding up to the toll booths, so please be careful and respect the limits as you come up to them :exclamation

I recently got nicked at 220kph in a 90kph limit.......I was escorted by two blue trafics to the nearest gendarmerie (A priller sandwich in blue bread) where I was told they would take the bike, they would take me to court and the fine was a maximum of 1500 euros and being banned from driving in France for 2 years......Although I've lived here for 20 years I always keep my bikes on Brit plates and have a handy uk licence so I am just a dim tourist as far as they are concerned......In the end they let me go, but I did get summonsed.......the beak must have just had a good session with his inflatable doll before coming to court 'cos he fined me 300 euros and told me not to behave like such a hooligan the next time i was in France :biggrin

Point is, they do sometimes go all the way, but for the time being there is no way they can really enforce a ban on a foreigner coming to France or wherever until we go to the real big brother european scenario of "them" knowing where we all are all of the time and exchanging speeding data so we rack up points wherever it is that we are "behaving badly"........

Nearly all the roadside cameras here are changing over to the Mesto 210 mostly used in head on mode - what they called a "fixed camera" as when it is being used it is stationary........The french are all starting to drive even worse than before 'cos they still speed but then just slam on the brakes when they see a car parked on the side of the road!!!!!!!!! The cars are nearly always cheap estate cars (peugeot renault and opel mainly, and usually grey or blue though that is not always the case). They can use these cameras on the move as well but won't have much chance of catching you, but they will call ahead if you are on an autoroute........

Around some of the busier autoroutes around some of the bigger towns they have been allowed to spend money on Scooby WRC's, they do not take prisoners, so don't go looking for fights with scoobys in those circumstances...they are always wearing their fairly visible blue gendarme shirts when in the cars

The laser type binoculars are still in use but they seem to use them less and less for cost reasons.....not only the guy using the fcukin thing but the reception committee they have to employ further down the road...

The Italians seem fairly cool about the whole thing - the whole country is anarchic anyway, on autostrada the cars stick in the outside lanes but pull over enough so that if you have the guts you just ride between them and the central barrier......took a while to get used to but is quite funny really....even had a cop car do that as I blasted past him at about 200 kph, he even waved as I went past (at least I think that was what he was doing :biggrin)

Agree again with RSVNutter about Switzerland, just don't do it!!! Behave like all the lobotomised, plodding Swiss people do and you will be ok........another good reason to not bother going there!!!