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didn't someone mention trading standards......... how can supermarkets sell **** fuel then???????

come on guys - be consistent!
 
Shall i give you the correct information.
i spent 6 years in the motor trade as a qualified fitter, and the last 20 years working in the oil refining business. so i have made the stuff and understand how it works in the engine.

The higher the octane or ron number the higher the cylinder pressures in the engine can be run.
higher performance engines run higher cylinder pressures, due to higher compression ratios. this gives higher performance, but requires a higher octane fuel to stop the pre ignition (pinking)
if you run a high compression engine on low 95 ron fuel it will pink like a *******.
running a standard compression engine on high octane fuel has very little benifit. there will be benifits, but they will be minimal. not worth the added cost.
the reason for not running certain supermarket petrols is because they are inferior quality fuel from eastern europe, they only just scrape through as being acceptable for use in the uk. they contain a higher percentage of low octane heavy ends and the ron is then raised by injecting butane into the fuel. when the butane evapourates from the tank, whats left is *****.

all top brand refinary fuel is actually slightly higher spec than they advertise. they work to a higher wrap around. and the blended components that are used are of a much higher quality.

all i will say is that sainsbury use BP fuel. which is of high quality. but thats not who i work for, mine do v power.

To be honest unless every body wanted to learn about the otto cycle and study pre ignition, injection commencement, Lambda control etc etc the best thing to say to wrap this up is, if you have a new ish car and drive pretty "eco" use V-power if you have a car that states use a high octane fuel use V-power any thing else (especially pre CAT) use normal 95, to add to that i find my mille runs better on 95 seem to get a bit more grunt out of it, :thumbup
 
use normal 95, to add to that i find my mille runs better on 95 seem to get a bit more grunt out of it, :thumbup

I would agree with that mate..my RSV feels to perform better on the Shell or BP 95 Oct...i also run a Redline lubrication additive to be kind to the valves. :thumbup
 
Agree with above. information was given to give accurate details.
With regards trading standards what are you going to complain about, read all previous threads, it does state that all fuel sold by all outlets in the uk meet the minimum requirements. however. then main refineries do not work to minimum requirements, their standards are higher, so you get a much higher grade of fuel for your money.
same as buying cheap engine oil for £5 pound a gallon, or top quality engine oil for £25 a gallon. they both meet MINIMUM standards but they are by no means the same.
 
agreat1.. You will be ok with morrisons superstore fuel at Whitehaven and workington as that comes out of our terminal so it is BP fuel:thumbup
 
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I went for my medical at shell stanlow and got an eye opener the other day when I saw morrisons tankers loading on the same bays as shell tankers.

Maes sense though, they are not gonna transport cheapo europian ***** fuel all they way to the northwest when they can deliver it to the southerners instead.
 
Hereblob & the others are specifically correct. I will add ,that, the additives that help with "clean" burn, and, also leave less carbon deposits, are VERY important to the valve train. Less carbon deposits means that the valves seat better, compression stays higher, and fuel burn is more "even. For true high performance engines, premium fuels are the best alternative. Yes, we're being robbed but it is what it is.:rant:rant:rant
It's true that the computer will adjust to different octanes but the side benefits are real as to additives.
Here in the states the supermarkets and convenience stores generally get their fuel from the bottom of the tankers, after the "name brand" deliveries have been made. There will be more sediment and "trash" there. That's why the fuel is cheaper. IMHO cheaper places may not have sufficient filtering for high performance vehicles.
 

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