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Yo Campers

Before I bore you completely shitless, some background.:dowhat

I am a 54 year old Welshman who has been riding bikes since I was 17.

Suzuki 250 Hustler, Suzuki GT250, Kawasaki KH500, (nearly banned for speeding) Honda XL500 (this will slow me down - 3 points for overtaking geriatric on double white lines!) Kawasaki H2 750, Honda CB900F2, Suzuki Katana 1100, couple of Harleys (9 points again!) Monster 750, Fireblades, etc etc

Point being I have ridden bikes before and some of them were V twins.

Bought my RSV-R in Feb 2011

Took it out for first spin March 2011 - it broke down (cooked rectifier) Came home on a lorry. Handling didn't feel right, real tall 1st gear, engine won't rev (past 12,000!)

Late March 2011 - got banned for a year (my own fault, serve me right)

Most of 2011 - RSV-R in shed. Respray and tweak Fazer.

Licence back December 2012 (did the course!)

Fazer 1000 brill - first spin 125 (kph of course Ocifer) RSV-R feels like ****. Feels 3 meters tall and like it's going to fall into every corner with an expensive crash.

Set all suspension settings back to handbook default. Still feels like ****, have zero confidence at all going around corners. Have tried it all ways, hot in, slow out. Hot in hot out. Slow in, hot out, it all feels like I am riding a penny farthing and it's going to fall over any second. Replace tyres - new Michelins (thanks Trev in Bont):thumbup

Next spin - getting to love the engine (no need to change grear much once you get it to 3rd/4th around here in the Wild Wild West) but handling still feels bad enough to meake me want to sell it for a Lambretta! Am thinking I will break it and put all the Ohlins bling on my Fazer (wonder if the swinging arm will fit) and flog the rest on fleabay.

All spins on fine days from now on will be on my Fazer.

My best mate buys an Aprilia Shiver GT

Next day (today Sunday 06-05-2012) we go out to get some miles on his Shiver (cos we're all going to the MotoGP in Barcelona in three weeks and he's got to run it in) so despite all misgivings I wheel the RSV out of the garage for an Aprilia day.

Cos I haven't ridden it for a few weeks (since the last time I **** myself because I thought I was going to crash it - or it felt like it was going to crash me!!) I checked my tyre pressures before going out and fired them up to 36F + 42R (put 5 psi in each to get there)

Went out around the bendy roads here in the Wild Wild West and travelling at running in speeds for my mates new Shiver everything came together on the RSV. I think we wre riding slow enough for me to have time to feel what was going on with my bike.

This bike has to be ridden, not just pointed. You have to get totally immersed in the 1000cc V twin experience. It's all about how that wonderful engine interacts with a frame that looks like a work of art, and suspension that would cost a couple of grand to fit to any other bike, when you ride it right.

It got to the point where I was getting so confident on this bike (that I thought was going to crash at every bend) that I had to cog down, rev up and **** off from my running in buddy and attack the bends between Brecon and Llandovery. I had a brill afternoon!

What a ******* motorcycle!! Hit over 120 (kph of course) past some dipshit M3 on the way home, steady as a rock.

Everything now comes together. This bike goes where you nod your head at, as long as you are actually RIDING it instead of just sitting on it! It's truly brill!

With an engine that could tow the UK down to somewhere near the equator (from standstill, in top gear!!) and orchestral music coming out of the arse end of it I am just amazed that I didn't get it earlier.

May now go to Barcelona on the RSV, might as well 'cos it's got new tyres!!

The moral being - if at first you think it handles like a cart, don't quit, ride the ****** the way you are supposed to!

PS Paul at Kickstart - book me a service slot - not a sales slot!
 
Good day then mate? I'm an old git too and a relatively recent convert to the charms of the Mille.

Today I did about 120 miles, more or less up the A65 and back :D

I love the sound my Mille makes. I sometimes wish I could get someone else to ride her so I could just stand and listen. But then again, NO, she's mine!

Rob :)
 
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Sold an R1 to buy my RSV in 06, riding it home (90 miles) I thought s**t, I've made a mistake here. It felt hard, top heavy, and slow. Bought some Leo-Vinci's and had the mapping put on setting 2, just rode the thing, and like you, the more I rode it, the more I gelled with it. V twins are a completely different riding style to an il4. Last year, I swopped bikes with my mate who's got an FZ1 (same engine as my old R1) and it felt buzzy and boring. He was surprised at just how quick off the mark the RSV was, and its only the fuel consumption that puts him off.
 
i can get around 140 ish miles on a tank wich i think is good ? oh and nice story red dragon :) glad youve clicked with your bike mate
 
Yo Campers

Before I bore you completely shitless, some background.:dowhat

I am a 54 year old Welshman who has been riding bikes since I was 17.

Suzuki 250 Hustler, Suzuki GT250, Kawasaki KH500, (nearly banned for speeding) Honda XL500 (this will slow me down - 3 points for overtaking geriatric on double white lines!) Kawasaki H2 750, Honda CB900F2, Suzuki Katana 1100, couple of Harleys (9 points again!) Monster 750, Fireblades, etc etc

Point being I have ridden bikes before and some of them were V twins.

Bought my RSV-R in Feb 2011

Took it out for first spin March 2011 - it broke down (cooked rectifier) Came home on a lorry. Handling didn't feel right, real tall 1st gear, engine won't rev (past 12,000!)

Late March 2011 - got banned for a year (my own fault, serve me right)

Most of 2011 - RSV-R in shed. Respray and tweak Fazer.

Licence back December 2012 (did the course!)

Fazer 1000 brill - first spin 125 (kph of course Ocifer) RSV-R feels like ****. Feels 3 meters tall and like it's going to fall into every corner with an expensive crash.

Set all suspension settings back to handbook default. Still feels like ****, have zero confidence at all going around corners. Have tried it all ways, hot in, slow out. Hot in hot out. Slow in, hot out, it all feels like I am riding a penny farthing and it's going to fall over any second. Replace tyres - new Michelins (thanks Trev in Bont):thumbup

Next spin - getting to love the engine (no need to change grear much once you get it to 3rd/4th around here in the Wild Wild West) but handling still feels bad enough to meake me want to sell it for a Lambretta! Am thinking I will break it and put all the Ohlins bling on my Fazer (wonder if the swinging arm will fit) and flog the rest on fleabay.

All spins on fine days from now on will be on my Fazer.

My best mate buys an Aprilia Shiver GT

Next day (today Sunday 06-05-2012) we go out to get some miles on his Shiver (cos we're all going to the MotoGP in Barcelona in three weeks and he's got to run it in) so despite all misgivings I wheel the RSV out of the garage for an Aprilia day.

Cos I haven't ridden it for a few weeks (since the last time I **** myself because I thought I was going to crash it - or it felt like it was going to crash me!!) I checked my tyre pressures before going out and fired them up to 36F + 42R (put 5 psi in each to get there)

Went out around the bendy roads here in the Wild Wild West and travelling at running in speeds for my mates new Shiver everything came together on the RSV. I think we wre riding slow enough for me to have time to feel what was going on with my bike.

This bike has to be ridden, not just pointed. You have to get totally immersed in the 1000cc V twin experience. It's all about how that wonderful engine interacts with a frame that looks like a work of art, and suspension that would cost a couple of grand to fit to any other bike, when you ride it right.

It got to the point where I was getting so confident on this bike (that I thought was going to crash at every bend) that I had to cog down, rev up and **** off from my running in buddy and attack the bends between Brecon and Llandovery. I had a brill afternoon!

What a ******* motorcycle!! Hit over 120 (kph of course) past some dipshit M3 on the way home, steady as a rock.

Everything now comes together. This bike goes where you nod your head at, as long as you are actually RIDING it instead of just sitting on it! It's truly brill!

With an engine that could tow the UK down to somewhere near the equator (from standstill, in top gear!!) and orchestral music coming out of the arse end of it I am just amazed that I didn't get it earlier.

May now go to Barcelona on the RSV, might as well 'cos it's got new tyres!!

The moral being - if at first you think it handles like a cart, don't quit, ride the ****** the way you are supposed to!

PS Paul at Kickstart - book me a service slot - not a sales slot!

This is a great post and I agree with everything you said, apart from the fact I'm 27yrs lol and it is pretty much an essay :)
 
wife dropped me off when i picked up the bike, an 01 rsv. her parting words were, dont go too fast, you hav'nt been on a bike for a couple of years. she told me off when she eventually got home, it was only 15 miles and i had got changed, made a cup of tea and was sat outside the garage just looking at it. apparently i took off like a scalded cat and she never saw me again till she got home. i gelled straight away( still a **** rider though), as you said you have to ride the thing, dont just sit there being a passenger. but i have a history on ducati's so that probably helped. gotta love the V twin sportsbike.

gordy.
 
Yo Campers

Before I bore you completely shitless, some background.:dowhat

I am a 54 year old Welshman who has been riding bikes since I was 17.

Suzuki 250 Hustler, Suzuki GT250, Kawasaki KH500, (nearly banned for speeding) Honda XL500 (this will slow me down - 3 points for overtaking geriatric on double white lines!) Kawasaki H2 750, Honda CB900F2, Suzuki Katana 1100, couple of Harleys (9 points again!) Monster 750, Fireblades, etc etc

Point being I have ridden bikes before and some of them were V twins.

Bought my RSV-R in Feb 2011

Took it out for first spin March 2011 - it broke down (cooked rectifier) Came home on a lorry. Handling didn't feel right, real tall 1st gear, engine won't rev (past 12,000!)

Late March 2011 - got banned for a year (my own fault, serve me right)

Most of 2011 - RSV-R in shed. Respray and tweak Fazer.

Licence back December 2012 (did the course!)

Fazer 1000 brill - first spin 125 (kph of course Ocifer) RSV-R feels like ****. Feels 3 meters tall and like it's going to fall into every corner with an expensive crash.

Set all suspension settings back to handbook default. Still feels like ****, have zero confidence at all going around corners. Have tried it all ways, hot in, slow out. Hot in hot out. Slow in, hot out, it all feels like I am riding a penny farthing and it's going to fall over any second. Replace tyres - new Michelins (thanks Trev in Bont):thumbup

Next spin - getting to love the engine (no need to change grear much once you get it to 3rd/4th around here in the Wild Wild West) but handling still feels bad enough to meake me want to sell it for a Lambretta! Am thinking I will break it and put all the Ohlins bling on my Fazer (wonder if the swinging arm will fit) and flog the rest on fleabay.

All spins on fine days from now on will be on my Fazer.

My best mate buys an Aprilia Shiver GT

Next day (today Sunday 06-05-2012) we go out to get some miles on his Shiver (cos we're all going to the MotoGP in Barcelona in three weeks and he's got to run it in) so despite all misgivings I wheel the RSV out of the garage for an Aprilia day.

Cos I haven't ridden it for a few weeks (since the last time I **** myself because I thought I was going to crash it - or it felt like it was going to crash me!!) I checked my tyre pressures before going out and fired them up to 36F + 42R (put 5 psi in each to get there)

Went out around the bendy roads here in the Wild Wild West and travelling at running in speeds for my mates new Shiver everything came together on the RSV. I think we wre riding slow enough for me to have time to feel what was going on with my bike.

This bike has to be ridden, not just pointed. You have to get totally immersed in the 1000cc V twin experience. It's all about how that wonderful engine interacts with a frame that looks like a work of art, and suspension that would cost a couple of grand to fit to any other bike, when you ride it right.

It got to the point where I was getting so confident on this bike (that I thought was going to crash at every bend) that I had to cog down, rev up and **** off from my running in buddy and attack the bends between Brecon and Llandovery. I had a brill afternoon!

What a ******* motorcycle!! Hit over 120 (kph of course) past some dipshit M3 on the way home, steady as a rock.

Everything now comes together. This bike goes where you nod your head at, as long as you are actually RIDING it instead of just sitting on it! It's truly brill!

With an engine that could tow the UK down to somewhere near the equator (from standstill, in top gear!!) and orchestral music coming out of the arse end of it I am just amazed that I didn't get it earlier.

May now go to Barcelona on the RSV, might as well 'cos it's got new tyres!!

The moral being - if at first you think it handles like a cart, don't quit, ride the ****** the way you are supposed to!

PS Paul at Kickstart - book me a service slot - not a sales slot!


:thumbup
 
Picked mine up in Feb 2010 from a guy 50 miles away in Luton. Being 6'4 and coming off a GSXR600 K7 I was looking forward to getting on a man size machine! After the first 2 miles of hitting the horn when trying to indicate I was in love....I'd never ridden a twin, the low down grunt was unbelivable and the noise was immense..... I love this bike to bits and whenever I think of spunking my savings on something else, I go for a blast on the mille and there's nothing I would rather have (except an Eddie Rep - although that would have to be to keep mine company, couldn't ever dream of getting rid of my mille :inlove
 
Picked mine up in Feb 2010 from a guy 50 miles away in Luton. Being 6'4 and coming off a GSXR600 K7 I was looking forward to getting on a man size machine! After the first 2 miles of hitting the horn when trying to indicate I was in love....I'd never ridden a twin, the low down grunt was unbelivable and the noise was immense..... I love this bike to bits and whenever I think of spunking my savings on something else, I go for a blast on the mille and there's nothing I would rather have (except an Eddie Rep - although that would have to be to keep mine company, couldn't ever dream of getting rid of my mille :inlove

Paul

You are obviously still smitten. Are you still indicating with the horn 2 years later. ;)

Rob :)
 
Nope - just dont bother indicating anymore!!
Its love mate, for sure.....we have our moments like any couple, she doesn't like the cold too much and has the old temperamental moment, but its all forgiven as soon as i'm blasting around in the sunshine....
 
Nope - just dont bother indicating anymore!!
Its love mate, for sure.....we have our moments like any couple, she doesn't like the cold too much and has the old temperamental moment, but its all forgiven as soon as i'm blasting around in the sunshine....

I know what you mean about the occasional tiff. Mine's not over keen cold mornings and the like.

I guess if you dont use indicators then you can't leave them on by mistake!

I changed my left hand switchgear to the early type with the lightswitch and the horn button under the indicators. Now I can 'indicate' and 'horn' when I want (and at the appropriate time). A small investment and only takes a few minutes to fit.

Rob :)
 
you want the pressure on the mille at 33F and 36R mate, for road.. that old 36/42 combo is too high for the v twin good for jap bikes though.
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Little late adding to this, and apologies for hijacking, but I have to disagree.
I'm with the Welsh guy, I absolutely love Mille's - I'm on my second one now (had a 2000 W RSV and now just bought a 2003 RSVR), and I wouldn't ever buy any other kind of bike than a v-twin. I had a 748sp which was awesome, but the Aprilia is just another league!!
I love them so much, and bang on about v-twin power and rideability that a guy I work with went out and bought a Ducati 1198s just because I said how great twins are - said he preferred the sytling on it to the Aprilias.
Anyhoo, about tyre pressures: when I picked up my R it felt like the back was trying to overtake the front on roundabouts, so knowing feck-all about suspension I checked the tyre pressures and they were about 33/36 so I did what I've always done and put them up to 36/42. Problem solved, and even on Maxxis tyres (any opinions on these?) which I would never have chosen for myself but were on the bike (I always go for Pirellis) it turns in and powers out perfectly.

Don't want to turn this into an essay but if my last one hadn't caught fire in August (anyone near Morrisons in Bridport might have seen it!!) it would have stayed with me forever - I told my missus that when I or it get too old it would have gone in the living room as an ornament. Not joking either!!
 
When it comes to tyre pressures, I have to agree with Carbon Kid...33F/36R is definitely the best combination. At the usual 36F/42R, the bike rides too hard and just wants to fall over into corners too quickly...also lacks grip and feel.

I have found that the standard suspension settings can cause wayward handling. Once I had increased the compression damping on the front, and the rebound on the rear, the handling was transformed from po-go wandering to stable and accurate.
 
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Like I said, I know nothing about suspension so I suppose one day I should get amongst it and try and sort mine out!!
Trouble is there are so many differing opinions that I really don't know where to start, so perhaps I should just take it to someone who can do it properly!!
 
It's not as difficult to fine-tune the damping settings for you as it may seem. Start with adjusting it all to factory settings. From there, only do one small change at a time, e.g. increasing the compression damping by one click, go for a ride and see if it's better or worse. If better, but not sure if it is enough, try one more click. Once happy, you can then try the rebound in the same manner. I'd suggest you concentrate on the front first, then the rear...this may lead you to re-evaluate your front settings, though, so just go through things click-by-click. :)
 
also a bit late on the thread but re the Maxxis, they defo dont want to be run at 42psi on the rear , 38 psi is a much better setting (I run 36f 38r for the Maxxis only), Im on my 2nd complete set (Dunlop sportsmarts are my normal choice) , but the Maxxis are well up to the job and a good match for any of the major brands.

Ive done trackdays on them, toured on them and commute on them, I dont like them when its damp and greasey as they move around a fair bit , but are okay in full wet conditions.
 
Cheers Kiwi, I'm doing Cadwell next weekend and was undecided about fitting my supercorsa track tyres or leaving the maxxis on. I'm going to try them out and see how I get on, as long as it's not wet or I'll be staying in the van!!!!
 

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