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BillyBankrup

BillyBankrup

Joined Feb 2011
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Herts, UK
Please help!

Picked up my 06 RSV 1000 R on Saturday. On way home work tonight I pulled out onto a roundabout and she cut out on me with the warning triangle and EFI lights. Now start button does absolutely nothing.

I've got the workshop manual and have tried to get into diag mode but can't seem to get it to display any error code. As I understand it you switch bike on (does normally stuff e.g. rev counter up and down) then hold down LAP for at least 15 seconds then it should display the code. Is that right?

Anyone think this could just be the battery?
 
The diag mode only shows "live" codes not stored codes so if the ignition has been off since the initial fault the code can only be retrieved by a diag axonne unit. The diag mode also only shows faults monitored by the C.A.N bus which doesn't monitor charging systems and things like that. The efi and warning light will come on with an ignition reset so they may not have been indicating a error code.

Does the fuel pump run when you turn on the ignition ?
 
Stupidly I didn't check but I believe it is.

I have a feeling it's battery as the voltage was showing 10.9 but that be because I has the bike on trying to get the error code. Before I did the messing around with the lap button it was 11.8
 
If it is the field is narrowed quite a bit but the obvious things to cut the motor would be engine stop switch (they can get water in), sidestand switch, tip over switch etc.

Some of those cut the fuel pump though hence the question. There are also 2 x 30 amp fuses under the seat area and they can blow/corrode causing issues too.

It could also be a duff batt of course but a jump will answer that. usually even with a duff batt the starter solenoid would still click away. Have a good look at the charging voltage if you get it to start.
 
Had a problem like that with my 06 RSVR, she would run fine then just cut out, traced it to the white block connector under the seat that feeds power to the fuel pump, the starter did turn the engine thou
 
Hey Spoonz, I literally just had almost the same conversation with some biker friends at work. Unfortunately I'm not exactly technical but I'm ok with instructions :)

I'm not sure about water getting into something as I'd been riding for about an hour so everything "should" have been dry but my likely contenders are tilt switch and battery. Any chance of some instructions on how to check the tilt switch?

If the main 30amp fuses had blown would I still have dash, lights etc?
 
BillyBankrup said:
Hey Spoonz, I literally just had almost the same conversation with some biker friends at work. Unfortunately I'm not exactly technical but I'm ok with instructions :)

I'm not sure about water getting into something as I'd been riding for about an hour so everything "should" have been dry but my likely contenders are tilt switch and battery. Any chance of some instructions on how to check the tilt switch?

If the main 30amp fuses had blown would I still have dash, lights etc?
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Make sure the tilt switch is fitted correctly firstly (up the right way) but i suspect it is if it ran for a while. If the fuel pump is running the fuses and tilt are likely fine as you would have a dead pump if they were an issue. It would depend on which of the fuses were at issue as to whether you would have a dash or not.

Re the kill switch the water damage will have been from ingress over a period not just 1 ride. The contacts corrode inside but they normally go internittent rather than stone dead.

On your model year the stand switch is probably a 2 wire jobby so a meter across the 2 wires on impedance will show if it's working.

The fuel pump will be a key factor. Whether that is running or not narrows the field quite a bit.
 
I was having a think about it and I recall the whirring noise as the dash comes up and the rev counter does it thing, so I assume that's it priming itself?

On the kill switch front would it have been like hitting the kill switch? As I recall if the kill switch is on then it comes up "ERR" (or similar) on the dash, if so that's not coming up.

So assuming it is priming what could I be looking at?
 
I had the same exact problem..Turned out to be the alternator..Easy job to do, bought a second hand one (£76) and also got rid of the brown connector on the right hand side from the reg/rectifier as that was getting hot..Still got the same battery, but thinking I should get a new one as this the original and bike now 4 1/2 years old.
 
Could be the stator but post 05 bikes are much less prone to that due to loom changes in the 06 model year. You usually get a misfire before it dies completely as the spark gets weaker but it's certainly a candidate

You need to charge or jump the batt and see if it turns over. It it doesn't forget the charge circuit for now. I can't remember if err appears on the dash with the kill switch on to be honest.

There are 2 many variables at the moment. check for pump working, check batt state and go from there.
 
Spoonz said:
Could be the stator but post 05 bikes are much less prone to that due to loom changes in the 06 model year. You usually get a misfire before it dies completely as the spark gets weaker but it's certainly a candidate

You need to charge or jump the batt and see if it turns over. It it doesn't forget the charge circuit for now. I can't remember if err appears on the dash with the kill switch on to be honest.

There are 2 many variables at the moment. check for pump working, check batt state and go from there.
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Mines an 06 reg, but I believe its an 05 model (lions head on fairing?) I got a misfire, then it went into limp mode and got the EFI warning on the dash..The alternator was fried and as I say the brown connector was getting hot..
His symptons sound very similar.
 
mark58 said:
Mines an 06 reg, but I believe its an 05 model (lions head on fairing?) I got a misfire, then it went into limp mode and got the EFI warning on the dash..The alternator was fried and as I say the brown connector was getting hot..
His symptons sound very similar.
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Yeah that connector was a bit of an issue on 04/05 bikes but it is not there from 06 bikes onwards. That's not to say they can't get stator failures but it's a lot less common.
 
Managed to hire a transit so it's going back to dealer tomorrow so will let them sort it.

Anyone want to take a pot shot at what I'll get as a courtesy bike? lol I'm going for a CBF1000 :puke
 
You would think they would thoroughly check them over first wouldn't you,when I got mine it was overheating on the way home but too far and too late to go back, ended up fixing myself, dealers who needs them.

Going to stick with private in future.
 
Not to far away mate....Bedford, was going to offer to come take a look but if going back to the dealer then hope it gets sorted....can you put on here what the problem was to help others

Cheers dude
 
Some nice roads up that way if I remember rightly.

No need to ask mate had already planned on writing a full description of the problem and the fix :)
 
OK so last night at about 22:00 I decided to stop panicking that the bike I picked up on Saturday had died on me. So I took myself outside with torch and decided to start from the very basics (which I'd not done yet due to work). Started by looking at stand then moved to the fuse box under the start button. Drum roll please.......it was the fuel pump fuse (and yes I do feel like a complete **** :blush).

So after being somewhat angry with myself I decided as I had booked the day off work I'd take it to the dealer anyway and just get them to see if they could find out why. After a test ride and a look over a few bits the general consensus is that, unfortunately it just blew.

I've got some spare fuses now so if it happens again I can take it straight down to them and they'll start investigating.

Thank you for all your effort in trying to help me but it seems I am beyond help lol
 
BTW - Is there a **** of the month award? Coz I'm thinking I'm definitely in the running (and probably favourite lol)
 
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