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Collapsing rear suspension - PLEASE READ!!!!!

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albrown001

Joined Sep 2011
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Portland, Dorset
http://www.soupysperformance.com/catalog/item/4408900/8529093.htm

I don't like being made to look like a c..t but I recently added to a thread with the above link and given everyone duff information. I have been running the bike quite a lot since doing the R/R and stator mod and this has just happens. The link itself has done about 2000 miles if that. 1000 in the last month since doing the compufire mod.

WHAT EVER HAPPENS DO NOT GO OUT AND BUY ONE OF THESE FROM THIS COMPANY AND GET THE WORD AROUND ON OTHER FORUMS AND AS MANY SITES AS POSSIBLE. THIS PRODUCT IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE

When I bought if from them I questioned its strength then and they said that it had been tested to death and was stronger than the original. I still have the emails to prove it. Well it hasn't been tested to death and its not stronger than the original and it is dangerous. My original Aprilia link broke on me when I was going about 30mph but I was doing 110mph when this broke. My rear carbon hugger is shagged, the centre of the tire is melted due to the speed that I was going and the time it took to stop, not to mention I nearly lost my life. Not very happy
 

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Will post all these pics to the manufacturer and will keep you all posted
 

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The design does not look good as the offset between the pivot and the screw thread will lead to the thread having a shear force applied. This is apparent in the way the bolt has failed.
Do not let them have that part back! get it checked and a full report done by an independent body.
What standards have they quoted for the testing etc?
Looks like the carbon hugger saved your bacon there!!!
Last one of these posted up on here had the tyre burn through most of the back of the bike and into the underseat storage area.
 
Just looked through their site and this is the only one with the offset design I am guessing it is to clear the bottom of the shock. The other types will only be acting in compression or tension which is how they should work.
Any engineer can see immediately the problems that could occur with the design.
 
gregorious77 said:
The design does not look good as the offset between the pivot and the screw thread will lead to the thread having a shear force applied. This is apparent in the way the bolt has failed.
Do not let them have that part back! get it checked and a full report done by an independent body.
What standards have they quoted for the testing etc?
Looks like the carbon hugger saved your bacon there!!!
Last one of these posted up on here had the tyre burn through most of the back of the bike and into the underseat storage area.
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Well spotted. It is off set to go round the suspension linkage. Which is why the standard aprilia one is made like it is. I questioned them on that at the time and they said that they had already looked at that and built the link stronger to compensate for it. Which is why I believed them and put it on the forum. I still have the emails... This has not been tested to death what so ever and it is not stronger than the standard link or as strong.

The standard one breaks due to corrosion and lack of maintenance, but if you take it off once a year and re-grease it, it will be fine. If they do break they normally break when going slow. This one has snapped because its crap and is not fit for purpose. It has been sold and marketed that it is as strong or stronger than the original when it is not.

Emailed company yesterday. Will have to see what comes back. Thanks for link to automotive quality management and stuff. Will let you know how I get on.
 
Cheers for info.

I have just ordered a second hand suspension link and plates from ebay. I am thinking about getting them made up in high tensile steel or even high tensile stainless steel if it will be stronger than the current alloy set up. Or high tensile steel anodised maybe in gold or something

Anyone interested in a group buy as it might work out cheaper? I am still going to get it done any road
 
albrown001 said:
Cheers for info.

I have just ordered a second hand suspension link and plates from ebay. I am thinking about getting them made up in high tensile steel or even high tensile stainless steel if it will be stronger than the current alloy set up. Or high tensile steel anodised maybe in gold or something

Anyone interested in a group buy as it might work out cheaper? I am still going to get it done any road
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One of the lads over on RSVR.net (Spooky) has already had some made mate so it may save you a bit of time if you give him a shout!
Uprated Suspension Link Plates - RSVR.NET Forums
 
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I'd post this over on the AF1 forum as its mostly Americans and the company are from the USA you might get some more info regarding others having problems and any comeback/compensation you may be inline for
 
redratbike said:
I'd post this over on the AF1 forum as its mostly Americans and the company are from the USA you might get some more info regarding others having problems and any comeback/compensation you may be inline for
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Yep I think you are right. I got an email back to one of the US trading standards agencies today, not quite their field, but they couldn't give a toss. Sod em then. I have gone through our trading standards over here and they are going to try to ban the item from UK and possibly Europe too. Not holding my breath though. If it does happen then at least non of us will be killing ourselves through buying the link. Possibly if someone from the US complained about it then they would all sit up and listen. Probably the first time that something will actually get get done about it over there is when someone gets seriously injured or even dead.

Those links look good. I have read about them snapping. I was going to get my ones made out of high tensile steel along with a dog bone and get the whole lot anodised in gold. I just don't trust them now at all. I don't think that the weight is really going to make that much difference. I've already lost loads as heaps of carbon fibre fitted :bigsmile
 
You are not going to believe this but posted it on AF1 forum and the same has happened to someone else. If I was in the US I would be in my car crossing states to kick the blokes head in
 
I know that I nearly lost my life over this but Soupy has emailed me back. He seems quite accommodating about it which is fair of him and nice as I am very upset about the whole matter and it takes quite a lot of stress out of the whole situation. I will let you all know how things go and how things pan out. Hopefully we can come to an agreement, get the product withdrawn and that will be that.
 
That's all good, but I reckon a total recall is in order and anything short of that is negligent on the sellers part. Still, sounds like the guy has a conscience so maybe!
 
Uglyfatfook said:
That's all good, but I reckon a total recall is in order and anything short of that is negligent on the sellers part. Still, sounds like the guy has a conscience so maybe!
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Yes Thanks for that. Recall and a refund. Maybe... But to be honest I'm not holding my breath. It would be nice if he did and to do the right thing and repair my bike. I will believe it when I see it and if it happens. But why would he do whats right? Would you if you stood to loose a little bit of money?

I have sent him enough emails now, he has replied to one and that will probably be the last one that I receive.

Nothing will happen unless people in the US do something about it, US trading standards aren't going to listen to anyone for any other trading standards agency from another country. There is more than enough people over there that this linkage has failed on. Any engineer can tell that the link isn't strong enough because of the design. I can't understand why it is so hard to get this actioned. Won't be long till someone get hurt. I already know of one person that has died because the suspension plates broke going round a corner on a gen2. It won't be long and someone will be getting killed through this linkage breaking and I told you so won't be good enough then.
 
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Come to the conclusion that Soupy's not going to do anything. Not even refund the money for the link. Neither are any of the trading standards agencies in the US. There is also no law to stop these links being sold online. Which means that they can still be sold no matter how many accidents happen or if people get killed. F'ing bureaucracy. There are also no laws what so ever in the EU to protect you or hold the company responsible even if you have an accident or get killed. Just what is going on?

I cannot believe that this county cannot do anything about it. No point even bothering going to trading standards or something like this
 

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