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non knee down action

deaney

deaney

Joined Jul 2009
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good evening guys i hope someone can advise me on my non knee down action. i dont have any problems going round my local roundabouts at 45ish mph or more and only have 5 or 6 mm of chicken strip left on my tyre. And as i ride most of the time on my own its hard to work out what iam doing wrong.PLEASE I NEED HELP:confused
 
How do you position yourself on the bike mate ?, you need to get one bum cheek off the side, (on a roundabout this will be the right side obviously), then build up your speed until the bike is lent over, then you just stick your knee out and wait for the slider to touch down :thumbup . You will get more lean at a slower speed by lowering yourself into the bike a bit, this will lower the centre of gravity. I rarely touch my slider's if i'm on it, it's just for posing really. :biggrin
 
Dont worry about ,probally trying to hard ,just relax,Ive not had chicken strips in years & still not managed to get my knee down,Even the likes of Niall Mckensy says in not necasery on the road,just relax & let the speed come
 
cheers mate i think iam doing as much as poss even getting one and a half cheeks off the seat and puttin my chin by the mirror and puttin the knee out its hard to say what else i can do but cheers anyway.
 
Probably down to being to tense and body position mate, have a look at an old picture of mine and you will see that you need to get the ball of your foot on the outside of the peg and turn your foot out, this in turn will force your knee/leg outwards and down, you also need to get one arse cheek of the seat.

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Most important thing is to be relaxed:thumbup
 
thanks i think the turning of the foot will help as for the rest iam already doing.great picture by the way.
 
Yep, you may well be right, just the position of your foot might be all you need to adjust, have fun, but stay on:thumbup
 
I very rarely get my knee down on the road and when I do it is because I've over cooked it and the alternative is either an oncoming vehicle or the hedge! My advice is go on a track day. Go in the novice group don't be intimidated by anyone else and practice your cornering. You'll be shaving plastic off your knees in no time at all.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjXZC2B4y8g&feature=fvw might give yu a few pointers. It's the technique I use.
 
Once i worked it out it was simple....I found out that its all about body position on the bike not the lean angle so much...If practicing on a roundabout then i would lock my left arm along the tank and also my left leg...Left *** cheek off the ride hand side of the the seat and my right foot (toes) are almost on the end of the peg....and dont forget to turn your head where you want to be going..moving only your eyes aint gonna give the same effect.....i can ride a lot faster without getting my knee down....for me knee down in 30-40 mph sweeping bends and roundabouts and remember make sure your tyres are up to temp before attempting....it normally hurts when you hi side....
 
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I was trying for 3 years to get my knee down on the road when I first started riding. In 04 when I got my first factory I did a trackday at rockingham. 3 laps to warm the tyres then started going a little quicker each lap on certain corners. Half way through the first session left knee down. The right took until the 3rd session but after that it was easy. I still find it hard on the road but can do it on certain bends And roundabouts. Just need to relax and not think about. Just turn your head relax on the bike drop your right shoulder and lower your head. It will come just don't get frustrated as that's when you'll make a monumental **** up which usually ends up costing you loads of wedge

good luck keep us posted.
 
I`m going to be brutally honest here, and although I would NOT recommend this to anyone else at all, it`s my honest opinion of the only way you will do it, or certainly, the only way that I did it:

I`d been riding about 3 years already, and never had the confidence to do it, although, like you, I felt I was hanging off correctly, and had all the lean angle I felt safe with.

I then bought my first Kawasaki ZX7R, and I don`t know if it was just THAT bike, or what, but I remember that it instilled such confidence in me, I was riding along a favourite road of mine one evening, and on going round a particular right-hander, I just knew, that on coming back the other way (with said bend now as a left-hander) I would definitely get my knee down.

Now comes the silly bit.............I approached the bend faster than I normally would have done, and simply attacked it at a pace that I thought MAY NOT be safe. The subsequent lean-angle needed to negotiate the bend (at all) saw my knee well and truly scraping the tarmac, and well.............what a feeling !! :thumbup

Absolutely made up, I was.........:biggrin

So, the crux of all this is that IMHO, you have to be prepared to exceed that lean-angle that we all have in our head, and simply lean over some more. Then you will do it. Having said that, I threw caution to the wind that evening, and I really would NOT recommend anyone else to do that.

Take care, and good luck ! :thumbup
 
this was my first track day earlier this year, as you can see frustratingly close, but still no cigar, and I was told that wasn't the closest.

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But this is with zero chiken strip and I felt overstreched in that position so I know something wasn't quite right. I've had a bit of advice and been told that my arse is off the seat enough but I need to sort out the position of my inside foot and straighten my left arm and it'll go down no problems.

Haven't had a chance to try this yet, but i'll be heading up to milton keanes when I've had my suspension set up to try it out. Hope this helps.
 
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