We (me and Mark from Email:
[email protected] ) started negotiations of 2d hand motor late August.
Email from Mark 27.08.2013:
The engine is from a crashed bike that had a damaged frame, it has done 11000 miles and runs spot on. The bike was an 05 and was in very good condition before the crash.
Cheers
Mark
Email 28.08.2013:
Hi,
I will get you some pictures today, if you buy the engine i will give you a 30 day warranty as we do with all engines.
I hope this is ok and look forward to doing a deal with you.
cheers
mark
After getting pictures and agreed price I paid certain amount to him 29th of August via Paypall, deal included 11 t. miles driven RSV R -05 motor + some smaller items ( gaskets/ some bolts/ pieces of fairings).
Exactly after two week's motor was in my hands so far so good, I notice immiteadly that three bolts were missing ( compared to given pictures) from heads and reported those to him and got an answer 12.09.2013 :
Hi
The nut's were removed as they were in bad condition, they were going to be replaced but the new ones didn't turn up in time. In the box with the fairing parts there is 3 new nut's, 2 exhaust bolts and the exhaust gasket's. The heads will be fine, just fit the new nuts and torque down to 54Nm.
Cheers
Mark
I wasn't looked the motor so closely before this but when noticed '2 exhausts bolts' I got scared, looked the motor and found the disasterous situation of the front exhaust and mailed to him 13.09.2012 :
Hi,
I was a bit loosen when you annouced that I'm up to get exhaust bolts too ........ but now after started to clean the motor this horrible issue opened to me, front exhaust is having just one pinscrew as ok, one which is a bit out but twisted, one is broken to a half and one totally missing - something that I would not expect from a motor with which you did have over a week time to prepare.
So as I allready said this is going to be warranty case before the motor starts, I do not have that good equipments that I could get those two away from the head, can you give you invoicedetails so I can take the motor a place where the are able to replace the worn ones ?
Once again - you did have that full week time to prepare the motor but this was result.
Just informing you that I was able to open all the 8 exhaust bolt without any problem while leaving some CRC affecting a day before loosing the bolts.
I'm also willing to swap the motor, of cource in your cost,
Txxx
An another mail to him same day:
Also the lid of the filter was missing, an part which should be delivered with motor ?
He is answering WERY slowly, I did ask my package once again 17.09.2013:
And what is the status for the small bites box ?
Please give your advice how you suggest to go on with the deal and offered warranty ! ! ! ? ? ?
Got an answer same day 17.09.2013:
Hi,
Sorry for the slow reply, I have been away and haven't had any internet.
The nuts on the head's just need re fitting and torquing down, they will be fine, the head gasket hassecondary bolts in the bottom of the head.
The exhaust studs just need 2 nuts on them tightened together and then turn the inside one out and it will turn the stud out, you dont need any special tools just some WD40 or similar and possibly some heat. I am sorry I didn't get time to do these job's myself but the parts didn't arive in time and I didn't want to delay the engine being shipped by another week.
The box is on it's way to you.
Best regards
Mark
My answer to him 18.09.2013:
Mark,
I'm sorry but your explanation is not justified, we have this email discussion so you could have asked my opinion in that changed situation - you sold me an motor which was rolling spot on ! This needs some bolts, extra work, a part of deal is still 'missing', ...... , there's no use for the motor as long as the box is on the way.
And in first case you confirmed that the motor was to ship early that one week but it was done late that week, enough time for negotiation ?
Also for the camclearance the loosened bolts are doing harm I think, one case opposite to motor rolling spot on.
If the clearances are now out of the specs an other cost is to be created.
Or can you say with clear eyes that the motor is now as ready as rolling spot on ? That was a motor which I bought.
If I can clear this case till end without any bigger extra problem my request is to have a x pound discount of the price.
Txxx
Then long silense ...... I asked my items once again 22.09.2013 :
Three weeks gone and I'm still missing parts from this deal.
This information of yours was nice and allredy known ( The exhaust studs just need 2 nuts on them tightened together and then turn the inside one out and it will turn the stud out, you dont need any special tools just some WD40 or similar and possibly some heat.) but there's no use for 2 bolts if there's not coil left ( one bolt) or if the bolt is cut to hole (the other) as the case is, motor is now lifted to a third party who has started working , it may be the case that those two holes must be recoiled.
Still left mounth open if the case is in your eyes that simple that just work with 2 bolts .......
I've started negotiations with other seller from a like motor, it seems that the price would be round about the same so if you do not reply to my request I'd like to return the motor with given warranty, it's not in rolling spot condition.
Naturally both dispatch cost will come to you while I kept my part of the deal ( paid amount of the deal) but you didn't.
I got answer the same day 22.09.2013.
Hi,
The other parts should have been with you by now, I will check on these tomorrow. As for the exhaust studs, I was not aware that one of them was snapped, I didn't carry out all of the work myself and was only told that I required 3 new studs, I apologize for this. The engine will be fine once the new nuts have been fitted to the heads.
If you send me the invoice for the removal of the studs I will reimburse you for this, I hope this is to your satisfaction. I am a genuine seller and not out to deceive people.
Best regards
Mark
My answer 24.09.2013:
Hi,
I'm happy to hear that you are taking the costs of the extra work of replacing the studs but in general it would have been more wise and customfriendly way of acting to have all in the places when delivered. And as I wrote the were 2 studs snapped ( if there's not coil left ( one bolt) or if the bolt is cut to hole (the other) as the case is) .
While trying to seddle an agreement of the replacing the studs with you me and my experienced fellow did try to get it solved, few working hours and drills worth 20 pound are gone ( it seems that the studs are hard as hell) - whom is to carry those costs ? My car is also not capable of moving the motor, I'll have to pay my fellows for that too. This all extra hassle is because of these broken studs ( which I did get open with time nicely from my motor).
I did try to explain you in the first place that even the swap of the motor is a huge effort for me and my fellow, we didn't want to have any extra work ......
I sincerely hope that the motor itself is full working order as you said but can I rely on it ? I'd like to believe that your aim is not to deceive people but this is not nice way of working if every delivery has something to claim. That exhaustcollector was as it should be, the first delivery did have that rearlight with a snatch broken glass ( I did not notice that immetedly, one of my more exact fellow did a bit more late) and now this motor.
Am I also reveiving those 3 bolts to heads ?
Now is two days under 4 weeks gone from my payment and I do not have all the bits yet.
Txxx
I was asking the small items once again 25.09.2013:
No sign of the (other) package yet - was it send same day as the motor ?
And got an answer 25.09.2013:
Hi,
it was sent on the following monday with royal mail, i will send another set tomorrow. i have got another side panel and the studs in stock, i will send with ups this time.
cheers
mark
I asked the items oce again clearly pointed 26.09.2013:
So package sent 2nd of Sebtember is disappeard ? Together with agreed exhaust + stator side panel gasgets ? Fairing bits ? Exhaust studs ? Head studs ? Sidel panel screws ?
It's been on the way almost 4 weeks, sounds unbeliable. Or ever sent.
Am I getting the bits of the deal ?
I'm feeling so loosen with this case, really,
Txxx
Got an answer again 26.09.2013:
yes it looks like the box has been lost, as i have said before i am a genuine seller and have no reason to lie to you. i will find the reciept for shipping the box and send you a picture, as i said i have all of the bits in stock so will re send with ups tomorrow when i am back in the office, and i will send you the tracking number.
To be contiuned .....