Gearing

NO not yet malc. Got a friend wanting to do some work on his bike, so we are gonna get em in the garage together tomorrow!
Thanks for doing that
What year bike is yours buddy?
Lol what on earths going on with that then!? lol If it is a 17 and put that gearing on it, its gonna like do 45 in first and 60something in second! arrgh.
Will let you know tomorrow!

yeah im not too sure really i guess alot of it is to do with perception

i cant really comment much on the speed of the mille compared to much else, as the only other bike i rode was an rs50 and no there isnt a 2 missing in that.. lol
the first gear now can beat the previous top speed of my old bike, epic

cant say i would WANT any more speed than i currently have, the condition of roads here is so bad that you pretty much never have a chance to enjoy the bikes ability in a safe fashion, maybe in a few years when i can afford to take it to a track day

its interesting you say about the R1 because i have always heard how gutless V2 make IL4 bikes feel, has your experience been otherwise?

Right guys. Had abit of a revelation in this gearing lark! Turns out the speedo is delayed!. I noticed just now that it kept climbing after I slowed down! So with this in mind I slowly rolled up to the limiter in first and second 1st 63mph, 2nd 90mph. Tadaa! I was looking at the speedo when the limiter was cutting in, and it obviously was still counting as it hadnt caught up!
Phew! Thought I had some spethal bike which had the box put in by agency staff at the factory!
So i`m sure it`l be a 17 on the front, allowing downgearing to 16 without ******** stumpy gears, more boom, and all is well with the world!!

Wolf - They are different, if you rode an early R1, say 01 -06 sorta shape, you couldnt call them gutless.
If you blipped the throttle at 4k in first on either my R1`s you have a near vertical wheelie on your hands with no clutch straight away, and from 90 in second no problem. They are just different.
Um, best way I can describe it would be an inline comes out of a bend like a big rubber band, with constant hard linear pull that grows more and more as you hold it pinned. Where as a V2 sorta comes out and goes BOOM, then fades away (or so it seems by comparison). But the inline (i`m talking litre) feel like they are trying to rip the rear tire away from the road as you come out of a bend, where as the V2 tend to hook up and drive.

One thing I have noticed is all the latest inl4`s seem alot less gutsy compared to the earlier bikes. Compare an 08 R1 I rode to my 01 carb or 02 injection R1 and it felt almost restricted and ball-less down low, but are BIBLICALLY fast once you get them into third and whack the throttle at 8k plus. Where as the older bikes tend to have the boom in the middle and less up top. The V2 is like that but more so. So I find its easier to ride at its fastest, as where you are in the rev range, or what gear your in isnt as important.

Anyway your doing well going from an RS50 to a new shape Mille! That must`ve felt like a jump! lol

lol yeah the weight and acceleration were tough to adapt to at first but i took it easy and now im pretty well used to it, funny how your perceptions of speed change, at first i thought 30mph was insanely fast.. lol now even 100mph seems nothing special..

thanks for the explanation on IL4s makes sense to me now

glad you figured out what was causing the odd numbers, whats with this limiter you keep mentioning though? something special to pre 04 models?

your gonna have a huge grin plastered on your face when you change those sprockets lol it sounds like just the kind of change your after (alot more immediate drive on corner exits)

Haha nice description there Malc!, yes mate well chuffed i`v solved that little puzzle!

Wolf - No worries on the explanation
I wrote a little review on when I rode all (almost) the 2010 litre bikes back to back last year you might like, I`ll PM it to you if you like. Unfortunately the aprilia wasnt one of them. GSXR1000,ZX10r,1198, and Fireblade, kneedowns, wheelies, general sillyness on bikes you dont own! terrific fun!

I know exactly what you mean about speed perception. I stand by it that nothing I`v ever ridden (and I`v ridden alot of bikes) ever compares to the feeling of speed when I first hit the power band on my little RS! You just can never have such a jump as from a push bike to that!
Then when I got the 400, I thought it was mental, yet after Id been riding the 900 for awhile it seemed like a toy. Then you try R1`s etc and you cant even comprehend the speed and acceleration, yet 3months later I was looking into tuning!

Yeh I`m well glad I figured that out! By the limiter I just mean the Rev limiter.

Yeh I think your right, Really looking forward to it! shame there`s bollock all riding weather left!