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pieman
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The CAPS LOCK is on the left hand side of the keyboard about half way down.
It's starting to get on my nerves!!!
To answer your question it would probably depend on how knowledgeable the copper is and whether it's a traffic cop or not. Worst case scenario I suppose they could issue some sort of prohibition order meaning you'd have to get it mot'ed or I guess they could confiscate it cause that seems to be the 'in' thing nowadays.
It's starting to get on my nerves!!!
To answer your question it would probably depend on how knowledgeable the copper is and whether it's a traffic cop or not. Worst case scenario I suppose they could issue some sort of prohibition order meaning you'd have to get it mot'ed or I guess they could confiscate it cause that seems to be the 'in' thing nowadays.
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deano
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unless they have a noise tester which i very much doubt (not even sure of a legal limit to be fair)
they would more than likely give you a vehicle defect notification that means you have to take the bike to an mot station at your own expense and get them to stamp it to say it legal and then you have to produce the stamped peprwork at your local stn in 14 days to prove it all good....
worst case but i am not trained to say 100% they could pg9 it as unfit for the road and seize it and apply a fine to get it back with conditions to get it road again...
but that is usually for unsafe vehicles.
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The standard penalty for an ilegale exhaust is 3 points and a £60 fine.
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You definately would not get a PG9. Additionally PG9's do not come with a fine per se. They are also issued 95% of the time by VOSA vehicle inspectors since there are very few police trained to the level required to be able to issue one. PG9's are for vehicles which are of such an unroadworthy condition that they present a danger to all members of the public by being allowed to continue on the public highway in their present condition and are usually only issued to commercial vehicles i.e trucks and coaches.
Noise limits vary dependent on the year of manufacture of your bike, but the generally accepted guideline for road use is 96db. Deano is quite right that the likelihood of the police having a db meter with them is remote to say the least and even more remote that they know the exact manner in which a db test has to be carried out as per Construction and Use law. Angle, distance, revs in accordance with the number of cylinders etc etc
When it comes to baffles, how do the police tell if you have removed them or not? If they are held in via a bolt hole, then it would be obvious to one who knew, if by a circlip then less so.
As long as it isn't stamped "NOT FOR ROAD USE" as clearly that is an immediate cry of it's illegal.
There are no points for an illegal exhaust under construction and use rules. It is dealt with via the vehicle defect rectification scheme (if your police force have adopted it) and will involve the 14 days as Deano has rightly said. It can also include a fixed penalty fine.
The only Construction and Use misdemeanours that carry an endorsement of points onto your licence are:
•CU10 Using a vehicle with defective brakes 3 points
•CU20 Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of use of unsuitable vehicle or using a vehicle with parts or accessories (excluding brakes, steering or tyres) in a dangerous condition 3 points
•CU30 Using a vehicle with defective tyre(s) 3 points
•CU40 Using a vehicle with defective steering 3 points
•CU50 Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of load or passengers 3 points
•CU80 Using a mobile phone while driving a motor vehicle 3 points
Me, I like noise :thumbup
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IanG
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Yup,me to.
I've currently got the db killer out of my Carbon Scorpion and it's not so much louder as deeper,more throaty.
When I said to one of my mates I thought was taking the piss a bit he said that it sounded nice riding behind it and it wasn't that loud.
This was from the guy that refused to ride behind my CCM R30 with straight thru' Remus race can as he said it was like being shot at with a heavily loaded 12 bore shotgun repeatedly :doug
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IanG
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Oh and the local police definition of a loud exhaust is sticking their truncheon thingy in the outlet pipe and wiggling it about ..Really
If it goes in it's too loud, obviously :jack
If it don't ,and it doesn't have ''not for road use '' stamped on it then you get the tape measure on the numberplate routine.
If that is ok generally you get a pep talk and told to watch your step as they are watching you.
If it goes in it's too loud, obviously :jack
If it don't ,and it doesn't have ''not for road use '' stamped on it then you get the tape measure on the numberplate routine.
If that is ok generally you get a pep talk and told to watch your step as they are watching you.
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:lol love it
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deano
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your a font of all knowledge lol
can i have your number to call you when i am at work ... my stats would go up hugely :thumbup
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B o B
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Having now got one of those apps for measuring dbs can anyone tell me what distance the track day people measure the exhaust noise level from?
And, do they go to the rear of the bike or just in the bike vicinity?
I might be able to determine whether my baffles stay in or out with a bit more confidence now.
And, do they go to the rear of the bike or just in the bike vicinity?
I might be able to determine whether my baffles stay in or out with a bit more confidence now.
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B o B
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On a slightly different tack; my son was riding his TL1000S with a full racing Scorpion system (no baffles, very loud!) and pulled into a garage for petrol and noticed a cop car with two cops sat in it, on the forecourt. He coasted in, filled up, went to pay.
When he came out one of the cops got out of the car, came over to him and told him, "we have reason to believe your silencers are illegal and we're confiscating them".
Naturally indignant he replied, "What, you've got to be joking?"
"Yes we are," the cop said. Jumped into the car and drove off, howling with laughter.
So, how about that then, cops with a sense of humour.
When he came out one of the cops got out of the car, came over to him and told him, "we have reason to believe your silencers are illegal and we're confiscating them".
Naturally indignant he replied, "What, you've got to be joking?"
"Yes we are," the cop said. Jumped into the car and drove off, howling with laughter.
So, how about that then, cops with a sense of humour.
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Here you go B o B :thumbup Details are from the clubmsv website click me who own Brands, Oulton, Cadwell and Snetterton.
The initial test is a static test which is carried out using a handheld meter. Each bike is measured 0.5 meters away from the exhaust at a 45 degree angle when the engine is being held at the following RPM:
Engine Size 1 cylinder 2 cylinder 3 cylinder 4 cylinder
250cc (4 stroke) 5,500rpm 8,500rpm
400cc (4 stroke) 5,000rpm 6,500rpm 7,000rpm 8,000rpm
600cc (4 stroke) 5,000rpm 5,500rpm 6,500rpm 7,000rpm
750cc (4 stroke) 5,000rpm 5,500 rpm 6,500rpm 7,000rpm
+750cc (4 stroke) 4,500rpm 5,000rpm 5,000rpm 5,500rpm
They normally have the meter attached to a pole that is 0.5m long and then place the pole at the center of the outlet and angle up to 45 whilst telling you to hold a constant throttle at the required rpm.
If you want the definitive, then go to the ACU handbook http://www.acu.org.uk/uploaded/documents/ACU-HANDBOOK_2009.pdf
However, this isn't the test for the road
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:laugh years of working in transport makes me a dull git when it comes to this rubbish :nana
What do you do Deano? :dunno
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B o B
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Here you go B o B :thumbup Details are from the clubmsv website click me who own Brands, Oulton, Cadwell and Snetterton.
The initial test is a static test which is carried out using a handheld meter. Each bike is measured 0.5 meters away from the exhaust at a 45 degree angle when the engine is being held at the following RPM:
However, this isn't the test for the road
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That will do nicely.
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deano
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old bill in one of the nicest areas in london :fire
