What air filter?

Thinking of changing my air filter as I'm running an 04 factory with high level leo vinci cans and power commander 3 usb looked today and it still has the standard air filter which may account for it being a bit fluffy on tickover when the engines hot.
What are you using standard, K&N, Pipercrosss etc

Cheers
Alan

i've heard mixed reviews about the k&n and sorts not really adding anything performance wise :O might be something worth looking into before dropping coin on it.

-:banana

K&N are just cost effective really.....you can clean and re-use rather than buy new every service

:biggrin do an airbox kit....
Renegade with a pipercross filter....MMnnn intake noise.....:thumbup

I've heard the same, I have heard good things about Piper X though

:eatcorn I've tried the evoluzione kit, with K&N high flow filter...
I've used the Homer Ewe kit again with high flow filter....
and I've finally stuck with the Renegade kit....

Homer kit pic


no pics of the Renegade kit..but nice kit....:thumbup

I'm still keen to see how the renegade kit looks in an 04+ bike and indeed how it works with the sensors inside of the airbox. i suppose you'd like to sell the homer?

I added a DNA filter, supposedly more air leads to a slight 1-2hp rise in midrange. Similar to the flapper i'm led top believe. But i'd get one for the reusability factor, wash it, oil it, put it back.

Funners. I'm looking at buying either the Homer kit or the Renegade kit. Is it worth the money just for the noise or is there a performance advantage? I've heard the Renegade kit is a pain to fit and you may need a breather kit for the oil pipe. Just need to know the pros and cons of both kits, and not many have had both.

Oh and Mashman, I think he sold that ages ago. I tried to buy it.

I have the evoluzione kit in my bike. What Air filter will I have with that?

MASHMAN said:

I'm still keen to see how the renegade kit looks in an 04+ bike and indeed how it works with the sensors inside of the airbox. i suppose you'd like to sell the homer?

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right, all the sensors have a purpose made place to mount on the base kit of the Renegade kit, it all fits sweet so long as you read the instructions, (which are the only iffy part of the kit) this is with regards to the "O" rings on the carb bodies !
I've no photo's of the kit, (I needed to get it fitted before Mrs Funners spotted the THIRD air kit for the bike !:devious ) but I'll try to take some for you and post them !

as Jase says....Homer Kit sold already...

JaseRSV said:

Funners. I'm looking at buying either the Homer kit or the Renegade kit. Is it worth the money just for the noise or is there a performance advantage? I've heard the Renegade kit is a pain to fit and you may need a breather kit for the oil pipe. Just need to know the pros and cons of both kits, and not many have had both.

Oh and Mashman, I think he sold that ages ago. I tried to buy it.

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Jase, the Renegade sounds LOADS better, it seems to have better bottom end but I've not dyno'd it yet to show the difference between the two kits, my dyno run was with the Homer kit.
I went with the Ren kit in the end as I had trouble getting the Homer kit ti seal properly, after a 5 day tour of Scotland I found grit in the inlet bell mouths which isn't good..:scared
I don't believe this is an inherrent problem with the kit itself, more a slight imperfection in MY tank, as upon checking other RSVR tanks, they didn't have the same "Dimple" that caused me the trouble !:jack
so the ren kit solved it for me.
ALL the sensors etc, have either a hole or a bracket to mount to, one of them isn't immediately obvious but they all do fit no worries...
the oil breather pipe is more of an issue, I ended up fitting a small K&N breather filter and ty-wraping it to a hose under the airbox...
the benefit of this is no airbox full of oil after long wheelies !:thumbup

both kits are beautifully made and had it not been for my tanks imperfection, I would probably have stuck with the Homer kit as the performance was good.
the Evo kit performed the same, but has the worry of the rubber flaps hardening and breaking the seal....

TarkMalbot said:

I have the evoluzione kit in my bike. What Air filter will I have with that?

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you could have either the stock one OR a high flow pannel filter of some make, it's often hard to tell....:biggrin

It has an after market one cos I noticed on the service reciept it mentioned cleaning of re-usable air filter.

TarkMalbot said:

It has an after market one cos I noticed on the service reciept it mentioned cleaning of re-usable air filter.

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Mkae sure you smear some grease over the rubber section of the air seal, this helps not only with the seal, but helps keep the rubber flexible as well...:thumbup like this...

Mate renegade carbon air box sounds like it wants to suck your head through the tank. Contact Southern Cross north london.

Cheers Funners. Top man. I think it will have to be the Renegade kit:thumbup.
I'll just have to tell the wife some stories. Can you order from Renegade kit from there website? It looks like it hasn't been updated in years.

JaseRSV said:

Cheers Funners. Top man. I think it will have to be the Renegade kit:thumbup.
I'll just have to tell the wife some stories. Can you order from Renegade kit from there website? It looks like it hasn't been updated in years.

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I rang em in the end...Goerges (SP) is the bloke to talk to and was very helpful,
they had a production delay due to over demand and kept me informed all the way and in the end delivered BETTER than promised !:thumbup

persevere with the instructions and take your time over the sensor mountings...:biggrin
the intake noise is just...Yyyyeeee hawwwww !:thumbup

Does anyone have links to the relevent sites for the air boxes :dunnoand what sort of cost are we talking as when I brought the bike I told her indoors "I wont need to spend any money on it as its all been done":devious

Cheers
Alan

Spike said:

Does anyone have links to the relevent sites for the air boxes :dunnoand what sort of cost are we talking as when I brought the bike I told her indoors "I wont need to spend any money on it as its all been done":devious

Cheers
Alan

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Alan, here the link to the Renegade site it's best to ring them, far far easier to understand !:biggrin

RENEGADE

I don't have a link ot he Homer Ewe place atm, but I'll try to dig it out.

cost for both is circa £200
the Evoluzione kit is slightly cheaper, but as with the Homer kit you have to use either your stock filter pannel or purchase a high flow one seperate

edit....here you go, link for the Homer kit...

HOMER KIT

I don't have a link ot he Homer Ewe place atm, but I'll try to dig it out.

cost for both is circa £200
the Evoluzione kit is slightly cheaper, but as with the Homer kit you have to use either your stock filter pannel or purchase a high flow one seperate

edit....here you go, link for the Homer kit...

HOMER KIT

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So does it seal on the underside of the tank then?:confused

Spike said:

So does it seal on the underside of the tank then?:confused

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yes, both the evo and the homer kits use the underside of the tank as the airbox lid....
the Homer kit is better made in that it's a full formed air box edge with a rubber seal attached so it fits like a glove...
the Evo kit is an Alloy plate that traps two rubber skirts to seal against the tank....
the Ren kit replaces the WHOLE airbox, inc the lower with a lovely carbon plate direct onto the top of the throttle bodies... this then has a HUGE PiperX filter Dzuz fastener attached to this....:thumbup