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Track Day

Joined Jul 2009
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Gosport-Hampshire
Really keen on doing a track day now I've got an ape as I was too scared to do one on my beloved RGV250. Seen that Snetterton offers a full day "Novice Only" session for only £89. Is there anything major I would need to do to my bike before going? There is a 105db(A) noise limit, how loud is this. My Leo Vince can passed MOT with baffles in but not sure they check noise levels on MOT or not:dunno
Would it be better to hire a van for the day as I think it would be a bit much riding all the way doing the day and riding home to Pompey again.
Is it worth buying a set of Track fairings or waiting til the bug gets me.
Is the track likely to eat the crap out of my tyres as I imagine it is a rougher (grippier) surface?
Any help advice much appreciated
p.s. who knows might get spotted by a scout:eatcorn
 
Cut and paste:biggrin

have a read here mate


What do I need on the day?

The absolute basics are licence, bike, helmet (to ACU/British standard), gloves, boots, and one or two-piece (zipped) leathers. I also consider a back protector as an essential.
If you have sparky sliders (knee/toe) replace them with standard ones as you will be told sparkies are not allowed during your briefing. Take your mobile phone and some cash. The mobile to phone someone if necessary (if only to share the excitement!) and the cash to buy drinks, food, fuel and spares if necessary.

If riding to the track – then take a small rucksack or bag on the bike if you can. Ideally you want to take basic tools Eg. allen keys/ spanners to take mirrors off, zip ties and gaffa tape, water, a couple of butties, fruit, crisps and a chocolate bar or two. To keep energy and concentration levels up it’s a good idea to eat and drink regularly thoughout the day rather than waiting until lunch and then eating a lot. If you cant take tools or are unsure what to take don’t worry as there will be plenty of people at the track prepared to let you use their tools if you ask nicely. (If you go on a day where a few of us off Throttlemonkeys are going then meet up and use our tools and store bags and valuables in our car/van).

If you are taking your bike on a trailer or in a van then prepare a check list of everything you need as theres nothing worse than getting there and finding you have left something you need.


Do you need a licence on a trackday?

Best principle is YES. Take your driving licence with you. (Both parts for the newer versions). If you do turn up without it the TDO (Track Day Organisor) will phone the DVLA on your behalf usually for a small charge of around £5. This can only be done on a weekday and you will lose any tracktime until this has been done.


Do I need to do anything to my bike for the track?

Yes and no. Whilst you are not obligated to do anything it makes sense to look at a few areas:

1) Your bike will be working MUCH harder than on the road. Check tyres. Make sure they are upto the job (enough trad and good overall condition). If your bike hasn’t been serviced for a while its worth considering a service or at least an oil and filter change. Check brake pads and make sure they have plenty of meat on them. Have a general check over and make sure bolts are tight, chain is lubed and nothing is ‘hanging off’. Also make sure your exhaust is legal if your chosen day is a ‘quiet 98db’ day. If it’s a normal day (104db) this is not usually an issue.

2) If riding to the circuit – Before going out on track remove or tape up your mirrors as you don't need them and they will be a distraction. Its also a good idea to put tape over the speedo (not rev counter) as again you don’t want to be looking at your speed. Its also worth taping up indicators and lights ‘just incase’ (if you are unfortunate and have an off it stops glass on track).
Some people remove or tape up their numberplates. Its personal but it has been reported in the past that insurance companies have had representatives there (or looking at photos afterwards) making a note of registration numbers should a claim be made on or near a trackday.

3) Reduce your tyre pressures from road settings to about 30 front and 30 rear. If unsure ask the tyre man or one of the instructors. Tyres will be running much hotter on track so this drop in pressure will allow them to work more efficiently. *REMEMBER to put them back to road pressure if you have to ride home*. (If you don’t have a pump – just ask as there will be plenty of folk that will let you use one).

You can buy track bodywork and crash bungs for your bike. Fitting these is a very good idea if you intend doing a few days (or buying older panels which can be swapped over). The bungs can be useful for road riding aswell but if fitting track bodywork bear in mind that it will not have cut outs for the lights.


How is the day organised?

You can usually sign on from around 7.30am. You just need to fill in disclaimers and liability forms (or present them if you have done that in advance) and collect your wrist band (which gets checked before heading onto the track). Briefing is usually around 8.30ish. This is compulsory and you will get a card, sticker or second wristband (depending on TDO) to show you have attended. If you miss this you cannot go on track until you have attended a later briefing.

The briefing will cover what is expected of you on track, the order the groups are out, warm up laps and last lap passing policy, flags/ marshals, ordering photographs and use of instructors amongst other things. (Each TDO has their own briefing format). The briefing usually takes 20 to 30 mins and Novice group are sometimes asked to stay back for a few additional pointers.

There will be three groups - novice, intermediate and fast. If its your first trackday its best to start in Novice. The organisor will be happy to move you up if you are finding the pace too sedate. Likewise if you book straight in the Fast group and aren’t upto the pace they will move you down. The key is to be honest with yourself when you book – accepting that if you are not experienced with trackdays you have a whole new learning curve to go through. Not only do you have to learn the circuit but your riding style in relation to the road will develop very differently aswell.
The groups will be annouced over the circuit PA system. Some TDOs also use flags – a different colour for each group.

Sessions are normally 20 minutes per group which means that you'll get 40 minutes break in between. Lunch is usually around 12.30 to 1.00pm for one hour. Sessions then continue until around 5pm dependant on light. It is fairly normal to get six sessions and sometimes seven sessions in a day. The number can depend on stoppages though so nothing is guaranteed.


What else is available to me on the day?

Instructors. You will be told where to ask for some time with an instructor in the morning briefing. Its free and very worthwhile. The instructor will follow you round, watch your lines. He will then pass you and let you follow his lines. (This is why some instructors leave their mirrors on – so they can see ‘pupils’ behind them). Once the session is over you can find the instructor and get his advice on your riding and lines.

There will usually be a tyre man at the circuit (although this isn’t guaranteed so worth checking beforehand if you are likely to need their services). They will supply tyres, swap your tyres over if you have spares or wets and will (if you ask nicely) alter your pressures if you do not have a pump.

Suspension services are now becoming more available where you can get your bike set to base settings and then to your specific weight and riding style with adjustments throughout the day. This is usually around £45.

There will be a photographer. Some require payment up front in the morning and others will take payment on the day or afterward (off a website). Prices are usually around £7 for a single photo and upto £35 for a disc with a dozen or more pictures.


Will food/ drink be available?

Yes. Larger circuits have canteens and smaller have burger vans. If you haven’t been able to bring plenty of water and food for the day then you will be able to buy at the circuit but as ever be prepared to pay over the odds. Remember to drink plenty to keep hydrated and eat small and often to keep concentration levels up


Will there be fuel available onsite?

Some circuits have fuel on site which opens at lunch time. Be warned its usually expensive but not often available. Best policy (if you cannot take spare fuel) is to fill the tank near the circuit on the way there and then pop out at lunch time and re-fill if you need to. There is asually a petrol station within a few miles form the circuit and the TDO will be able to give you clear directions. If you do go out for fuel remember to re-attach number plate or take tape off if taped up (and mirrors if you need them).


Will the day get stopped if the weather is bad?

No. Not unless the circuit stops the day (not the TDO) which will only happen very rarely. If its raining just take it very easy and concentrate on smooth throttle control and smooth lines – Or sit in a dry garage until it stops!!
Even if you take the cancellation insurance some companies offer this is null an void if they get you on the circuit for even part of a session so is not really worth it. (Just my opinion there).
If a days is cut short because of weather then generally that’s it. No refunds.



The main thing about doing trackdays is to go there and enjoy it. If you can go with mates - or meet up with folk at the track I find that does add a bit of fun to the day with the craic and banter. You can also borrow and lend stuff that way!
From a riding perspective just go and take it easy whilst you get a feel for the circuit and prepare to be amazed at how good your bike is! You will be told during the briefing that its not a race and thats exactly right. Whether you are the fastest or slowest out there - ride within YOUR limits and enjoy it. You will find as you settle down you will feel you are improving and going faster each session and with confidence can start to extend your personal limits.

Never know, you may get spotted by a girl guide:doug
 
When you thinking of doing Snetterton then, I may ride up if the weathers nice and watch?
 
When you thinking of doing Snetterton then, I may ride up if the weathers nice and watch?

It's on Thursday 9th September. You can come if you promise not to laugh

Thanks for that Badger got everything I was after
 
It's on Thursday 9th September. You can come if you promise not to laugh

Thanks for that Badger got everything I was after

Me laugh, never. :devious

Hopefully if the weathers nice we will have to see if we can get the Kent guys out for a spin to Snetterton.

Some damn fine roads round there for a good tear up and down. :doug
 
Really keen on doing a track day now I've got an ape as I was too scared to do one on my beloved RGV250. Seen that Snetterton offers a full day "Novice Only" session for only £89. Is there anything major I would need to do to my bike before going? There is a 105db(A) noise limit, how loud is this. My Leo Vince can passed MOT with baffles in but not sure they check noise levels on MOT or not:dunno
Would it be better to hire a van for the day as I think it would be a bit much riding all the way doing the day and riding home to Pompey again.
Is it worth buying a set of Track fairings or waiting til the bug gets me.
Is the track likely to eat the crap out of my tyres as I imagine it is a rougher (grippier) surface?
Any help advice much appreciated
p.s. who knows might get spotted by a scout:eatcorn

You still got Rgv? any pics. I did track day on rgv. had some running issues but handling wise was tops.

got wasted on straights but held up in corners.

had an rgv for years and said I would never sell it but running costs were too much after getting it to track/race spec and reluctantly broke it. regretting it now and hopefully will have another one day???

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brooky!

the pics finally of the smoker!!

shes a beauty for sure!!!

hows your bike running???
 
Aye up griff, on/off throttle response is sweet, interested to have it set up with machine to see how close your ear set up is though.(guessing your pretty close)as its loads better getting on throttle. plus if you do it on machine you may take some money next time:thumbup

just getting clutch slip when ridden hard in top gears as in arry bikers thread. had fully synth in but gone to semi, will try 6mm washers behind springs first before shelling out for new plates.

got to get another smoker one day, rsv's are diffferent and addictive but I like dancing on gear lever within a 2 grand power band. and havin to keep a few fingers on clutch lever

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about your leo vince cans - just put yr standard ones on to be safe. on my last trackday i saw alot of disappointed people with race cans that assumed they would pass the noise test because they had the baffles in.
 
Gonna take my bike into work as apparantly the Doctor has got a Db tester. Just need to contact the track and ask about RPM level for test.
Unfortunately had to let the RGV go to raise funds for the Ape, ebay item No 140332531576
Yours looks beautiful mate, loving the Tyga's
 
weather

dear bayliss of troyshire [in other words god] please dont let it rain on my first trackday or i will buy a honda!!! fanx ,butch weather aint looking good :rant why couldnt i have been born spanish/floridian/italian please anything but this dreary wet/sodden/asylum seeker ridden land [green and pleasant my arse]:devious
 
Do I detect a faint tinge of cynicism creeping in there ?

How about a rousing chorus of 'Rule Brittania' ? :eek:
 
Cheers Dan, will ask the scab lifter this week if I can use his tester:thumbup
Butch be careful this weekend as well, we don't want the Grifster working on a broken bike :lol
 
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