Poor Neutral Selection

BARCS1 · Oct 15, 2007

HAVING NOT LONG PURCHASED AN 04 RSV1000R I THOUGHT I HAD CURED AN EARLY PROBLEM WITH THE CRAP NEUTRAL BUT ALAS THE PROBLEM HAS RETURNED.
WHEN THE ENGINE IS TURNED OFF NEUTRAL IS EASY BUT IN GENERAL RUNNING IS A PIG AND IS P-----G ME OFF AND IS RUINING WHAT IS A FANTASTIC BIT OF KIT.
ANYONE GOT ANY IDEAS I HAVE CHANGED THE JET AS PREVIOUSLY POSTED SOMEWHERE ON THIS SITE BUT SHORTLY AFTER THE PROBLEM RETURNED.:dunno

Gasboy · Oct 15, 2007

mines crap 2, 2002 model ! ??

NewBoots1 · Oct 15, 2007

There is a knack to it....up into second and feather it down into neutral....works 99.9% of the time!!

BARCS1 · Oct 16, 2007

Mmmmmm if it wasnt like trying to break your foot in that action it may work but it is solid and even when i can get up into second touching it down just clunks straight into first again..

TarkMalbot · Oct 16, 2007

I have the same problem on my 06. I just have to hold the clutch in at traffic lights. By the time I ad got nuetral the lights would have changed anyway!!

NewBoots1 · Oct 16, 2007

Is that not a clutch problem rather than gear selection....There is a clutch master cyclinder replacement option that is for sale on E-Bay and has been mentioned within this forum.???

carpe diem · Oct 16, 2007

Whatever its caused by ive got it too, but to be honest ive got used to it now...:eatcorn

addict raver · Oct 16, 2007

Mines always been a nightmare too and what with the bike now creeping forward with the clutch fully in, neutral is almost impossible to find. That big muscley left wrist I originally got from my 916 has returned, oo er...

little1uk · Oct 16, 2007

addict raver said:
Mines always been a nightmare too and what with the bike now creeping forward with the clutch fully in, neutral is almost impossible to find. That big muscley left wrist I originally got from my 916 has returned, oo er...

Be honest DC that musclely wrist had nothin to do with ridin a bike now did it...... you know it :jack we've all done it :lol:lol:lol

rsvr47 · Oct 16, 2007

little1uk said:
Be honest DC that musclely wrist had nothin to do with ridin a bike now did it...... you know it :jack we've all done it :lol:lol:lol

i find it easier getting someone to do it for me:devious that is not holding the clutch before you ask:jack

addict raver · Oct 17, 2007

That's my right wrist Stu, having been shaken more times than a safari-park chimps. :devious

addict raver · Oct 19, 2007

This may help some of you...

Ok, I took my bike into 'In Moto' in Croydon yesterday as it was now nearly impossible to ride. I couldnt stop, but if I had too even with the clutch fully depressed it stalled and I had a kangaroo start it in gear to get going. Nightmare :scared

Here's what I was told: Apparently early RSV's had a clutch lever and reservoir recall. Mine however, seems to have missed it. I'm told the recall replaced the clutch lever with one that had a bigger pump in the internals and the reservoir was replaced with a slightly bigger one that had a larger hole at the bottom to aid flow of the fluid. This helped with a problem of air in the system.

So, whilst I didnt replace the lever as mine's out of warranty (would have cost around £200

) I had the system bled and the fluid reservoir replaced for the larger one. £34 all in.

The gear change now feels like that of a jap bike with neutral being found very easily. It's funny how something so silly canaffect the riding of a bike. My clonky gearchange proved a real pain in the arse before.

Not sure if all of the above will affect your various yeared bikes but I'd say bleeding the system will surley help.

Good Luck

A very happy DC:biggrin

NewBoots1 · Oct 19, 2007

addict raver said:
This may help some of you...

Ok, I took my bike into 'In Moto' in Croydon yesterday as it was now nearly impossible to ride. I couldnt stop, but if I had too even with the clutch fully depressed it stalled and I had a kangaroo start it in gear to get going. Nightmare :scared

Here's what I was told: Apparently early RSV's had a clutch lever and reservoir recall. Mine however, seems to have missed it. I'm told the recall replaced the clutch lever with one that had a bigger pump in the internals and the reservoir was replaced with a slightly bigger one that had a larger hole at the bottom to aid flow of the fluid. This helped with a problem of air in the system.

So, whilst I didnt replace the lever as mine's out of warranty (would have cost around £200) I had the system bled and the fluid reservoir replaced for the larger one. £34 all in.

The gear change now feels like that of a jap bike with neutral being found very easily. It's funny how something so silly canaffect the riding of a bike. My clonky gearchange proved a real pain in the arse before.

Not sure if all of the above will affect your various yeared bikes but I'd say bleeding the system will surley help.

Good Luck

A very happy DC:biggrin

Great stuff, sounds like a simple resolution to a b'stard of a problem....bleeding useful too!!!!!!!!:biggrin

BARCS1 · Oct 21, 2007

today just changed clutch fluid with reverse bleeder(syringe)and changed oil ,seems to have made neutral a hole lot easier only prob now cause it was so easy to bleed clutch I thought do rear brake as well, now cant get it firm (oooh errr sorry wifey)looks like another vast -issing about job.Wheres my thundercat I miss you.......

rsvr47 · Oct 21, 2007

noooooooooooooooooooooooo do not say that????

Black Sabbath · Oct 21, 2007

Select second, then a real gentle tap down with the toe. Works every time for me. :dunno

rsvr47 · Oct 21, 2007

Black Sabbath said:
Select second, then a real gentle tap down with the toe. Works every time for me. :dunno

yes that is what i do too:thumbup:thumbup works for me:thumbup:thumbup

NewBoots1 · Oct 21, 2007

Black Sabbath said:
Select second, then a real gentle tap down with the toe. Works every time for me. :dunno

As I mentioned earlier in the thread!!! It appears though that this is not the case with certain bikes....Probably the one's that need a clutch bleeding session rather badly ( mine in the not so distant future I fear!):thumbup

Abakab · Oct 24, 2007

Not so much of an issue for me... But still a problem that i have had... And again , sorry to preach, but i slap it in second and then very lightly press it down into neutral...

Aba

WarrenRSV · Oct 30, 2007

barclaycebo68 said:
today just changed clutch fluid with reverse bleeder(syringe)and changed oil ,seems to have made neutral a hole lot easier only prob now cause it was so easy to bleed clutch I thought do rear brake as well, now cant get it firm (oooh errr sorry wifey)looks like another vast -issing about job.Wheres my thundercat I miss you.......

Don't sell that thundercat yet, remember all the trouble free miles you used to do? I bet you now regret test riding my RSV!!

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