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Hello everyone,

I looking at converting to the V-Twins Dark Side from inline fours. So i'll be asking a few questions in the near future about the finer points of owning an RSVR.

Gixerhowie
 
welcome buddy.
do it matey,youll never look back!
most of us are converts from il4's,the majority being r1's,and we luuuurve the mille,no going back once youve felt the drive of a twin.
 
what shape are you after,classic or new?
were do we start....firstly theres the sound,like fookin thunder,then the torque and the way the beast digs in and you wind the power on exiting the corners long before a 4,the handling is sublime,and theres so much room on the bike its sooo comfy,then you get to the looks,so distinctive and unlike anything else out there,the 4's all look the same,and the power delivery on my 2003 reminds me of my early 98 r1,savage,like holding onto the horns of a rabid bull.
itll feel a monster compared to a gixer6,and if its your cup of tea,theyre one of the finest track day tools you have!

book a test ride at least bro,see what all the fuss is about.
 
Ok then, heres a question. I think its the MK2 i'm looking for. The one with the funny looking headlight. What do i need to look out for in particular when buying a RS? Can anyone send me a model list with spec for each bike over the years? Service intervals and costs? Which bits need the most attention?
 
Its the sound and looks that made me concider the change. The torque and drive is going to be good. I prefer the Aprillia quality to the SP1/2 i've looked at. What tyres suit best for trackdays/sports riding?
 
best tyres seem to be michelin pilot 2ct or pirelli corsa3.
the mille is 1998-2003 then the newer shape 2004-present.the first model is a bit bigger/taller,more room for us big fellas and a bit more aggresive power delivery imo,both excellent bikes.

1998 RSV Mille lauched
1999 New colour schemes
2000 New colour schemes. RSV Mille R launched with ohlins suspension, lightweight OZ forged wheels and carbon. Homologation SP model launched for WSBK with revised engine internals, detail changes to chaissis, brakes bodywork
2001 New colour schemes. Revised RSV Mille and Mille R with revised engine internals, revised EFI, new brembo calipers, new bodywork and tank, suspension changes and revised engine positon.
2002 New colour schemes. Ltd edition Haga Rep introduced with bling, twin Akrapovic exhaust and bigger throttle bodies.
2003 New colour schemes. Revised RSV Mille and Mille R with new rear end bodywork, closer gearbox ratios, R model got radial brake calipers. Ltd Edition Edwards introduced with bling, twin Akrapovic exhaust and bigger throttle bodies.

2003.5 New model RSVR1000 and Factory introduced
2004 No changes
2005 New colour schemes. RSVR gets Radial Brake calipers. Both models get clear indicator lenses
2006 New colour schemes. Revised RSVR 1000 and Factory with new bodywork, revised engine internals and EFi, RSVR gets ohlins front forks and OZ style wheels. Both models get new style exhaust can.
2007 New colour schemes
2008 New colour schemes
 
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well chap if you get a factory replica, the level of kit unreal, inline 4 are good bikes but there something different about v twins
 
also,curtesy of rsv ecosse

I've posted the following a few times in the past week on various forums, but I will post it again for you m8, you may well have read all this already ( more of a buying guide really, but some good advice in there anyway ) :-

I posted this list a few times on both aprilia.me and Bikers Oracle in response to new guys looking for info, hope it helps:-

Reliable as fook, these Mille's.

In almost 3 years of ownership of a 2000 RSV, I've only had the sidestand and tilt switch go tits up on me.

Battery was shagged at the start of the year, so needed a replacement but then again, it was the original one, so thats not so bad. Get an Optimate and keep it plugged in to solve that particular problem.

Swap the gearing over from standard to 16/44 and I'll guarantee you will have a smile on yer face as wide as the Forth road bridge.

Check its derestricted ( It most probably will be, but worth checking anyway :) ).

The airbox, ECU wire snip and the exhaust *bung* in the standard silencer are the standard restrictions.

Most RSV's are derestricted very early on in their life, usually either at the PDI or more commonly, after the first service ( the under 1000k one ).

It's very rare indeed to find a Mille that is still in restricted trim, unless the dealer you bought it from new is a lazy git!!

Lift the tank and seat, takes two minutes to check if its been done or not.

Exhaust bung in standard can is easily spotted too. Just remove it and look up the pipe that bolts to the downpipe. You should see nothing.......if you see a cone type item with two bloody great spot-welds holding it on, thats a restrictor and it needs persuading out with a cold chisel and a big hammer.

Here's some pics:-

Green/Blue ECU wire, requires snipping to free up the second map:-

ecu1


Airbox bung location ( showing mine removed, I've got an Evo airkit nestled in there since this pic was taken );-

airbox1



Here's a pic of the exhaust bung ( spot welds circled ):-

exhaustbung2mj.jpg


Full details of the derestriction procedure here:-

http://www.geocities.com/sl_mille/derestrict.html


Here's a quick list off the top of my head on some other *****:-

  • Make sure the battery is in tip top condition. Changing to a higher powered YTX14BS 12v-12AH one helps with starting problems.
  • Watch for sprag clutch problems. Cost a fortune to fix, although its not ridiculously common.
  • Check the swinging arm for dents on both sides, behind the exhaust can and on the other side down by the front of the gearchange lever. If the bike has been over on either side, these come into contact with the swingarm and leave marks/indentations.
  • Back brake works for 5 minutes after its bled, then vanishes. Common fault, happens to loads of folk. There are various methods of curing this, most of which have been covered here. Dont be put off the bike if the rear brake isn't feeling too great though.
  • Check for leaky radiators. And fit rad guards if you decide to go for a Mille, just in case.
  • Brake discs can warp, though again, not too common a prob.
  • Speedo can fail due to dodgy speed sensor which takes its pick up from the rear disc bolts.
  • Clutch fluid becomes dark coloured and looks well used within a few days of changing. This is normal.
  • Sidestand cut out switches can fail causing intermittent cutting out and hesitation. Theres a "workaround" for it or just replace the switch.
  • Tilt or Tipover switches can fail. Located under the seat just behind the battery. Uses microswitches to sense when the bike tilts over at a preset angle and cuts the fuel. When these start going on the blink some folk "bodge" them by filling them with sealant to stop the microswitches moving ( I had found spearmint chewing gum in mine :laff: ). Again, replacement is the cure.
  • Rear hugger bolts can seize if not greased when replaced ( and even if they are greased they can still seize ). Found that out to my cost in the last few days.
  • Starter relays can pack in, replacement with one from a GSXR1000 is an idea, better made and more reliable electrics apparently.
  • Oil leaks from cack handed mechanics who have done a valve clearance check and then caught the rubber seal on under the valve covers when refitting everything. Manifests itself as oil smoke coming off the exhausts ( may be from either front or rear cylinder ) and oil accumulating in the bellypan and soaking the sound deadening material within.
  • Excess oil is blown out into the airbox and accumulates there if the oil tank is overfilled. Again, you will notice oil smoke and possible a drip from the bike. These engines have seperate oil tanks and no sump, filling is a bit different to other bikes. Start bike, take it up to operating temp until the fans cut in or better still, go for a quick ride on it. Stop bike and check sight tube for oil with the bike upright on level ground, immediately after switch off. There are two marks "Min and "Max". As long as there is oil visible in the sight tube, you are good to go. Does not have to be anywhere over halfway, otherwise you will risk the oil in the airbox thingy. Most folk keep the oil in the bottom 1/3 of the tube and this seems the best level to avoid oil blowback. Mille's can sometimes use a fair bit of oil. Check it more regularly than you would any previous bike you have had.
  • Fully synthetic oil can cause clutch slippage. Most people ( and some here will disagree, I know ) stick with a good Semi-synthetic oil. I use Rock Oil Guardian 10/40.
  • Engine, especially top-end, can sound a bit noisy/tappity. Very common, the Rotax V990 isn't the quietest of lumps.

I've probably missed a few other things but these are some of the more common things that get asked about on here.

Dont mean to frighten you off with all the faults, just wanted to make you aware of what gets asked about most.

Tyres.....depends on your style of riding. I get about 3000'ish out of a rear Mich Pilot Power, which by the way, is a very good tyre which matches the RSV perfectly, lots of owners swear by 'em.

Fit a Scottoiler and forget about lubing with messy gloop from a can or having to adjust the chain at all between services.

To finish off, here's a link to almost every manual you will ever need for a Mille:-

http://aprilia.vladiks.com/aprilia_docs/

Files are in .pdf form so you will need Adobe Acrobat reader to view them. Have a read through and you will get an idea of some of the ins and outs of the bike.

Oh and lastly, welcome to the forums!!!. :)

You wont regret buying a Mille, I'll put my mortgage on it m8.


None of the above is "set in stone", but it covers a lot of things that prospective new owners ask about.

You have a Leo vinci can on there so obviously, disregard the bit above about the standard can and its *bungs* that restrict it.[/QUOTE]
 
Cheers for that mate, the info was exactly what i was looking for. By the look of things i need to target the 2000 Factory. Am i right in thinking they are in the regions of 130bhp? 100 lbs/ft torque as standard? Do they benefit from a PC with different can? Acropovic i imagine.
 
the milles were rsv or rsv "r" until 2004,after that the top model went from "r" to "factory".the early R and later FACTORY models are the ones with the full monty on em,ohlins,o.z wheels,carbon fibre ect.
after market exhaust,renegade race airbox mod,map2 and deffo change the gearing,15t front sprocket make big changes,pc3 to smooth it all out if you want,makes it less lumpy at the bottom end,but i like old skool lumpy lol.
they come restricted as standard as it states in the above "what to look for guide".i.e airbox,standard can and set on map1,read above to check its de restricted,most used ones are by now.
go buy a good un matey.
 
hi mate go for it buy one
get a 2004 onward factory - tonnes of extras that everyone spends money on anyhow.
magnesium wheels ohlins forks
ohlins shock
brembo radial
ohilns damper

if you want a reliable bike and not be different buy a honda fireplace
if you want slightly quirky exotic sexy italian beauty then buy an rsv

they sound and look awesome
they'll give you pins n needles in your wrists
they're slightly uncomfortable to ride anything but fast
you'll definately need to lower the gearing 15 front to even be ale to ride round town
the clutch requires fluid changed every 1000 miles (easy quick job)
rear brake is useless but i dont use it (just for mot)
font brakes are excellent.
oil is difficult to do on your own rotax engine with a dry sump - ride for 20 mins then stop and look in window with bike upright.
standard tank bags dont stick to tank as they're not made of iron (non magnetic)
fork seals can go about 140 quid to get replaced
tyres i'm currently running dunlop qualifiers rr 190/55 rear 120/70 front
2ct and diablo corsas are popular choice too

i've had 3 R1's and 2 rsv's came off an rsv last year and snapped it in 2 and made a mess of my legs.
they're was nodoubt as to what bike i was replacing it with my rsv factory

i love my rsv, i even built her her own garage LOL
i really hope i don't low side this one too

go on buy one - you know you want to
 
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