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Hi there,
I'm new on Aprilia RSV mille, I find a perfect model but I have a problem.
Motorbike has no a great acceleration as fuel consumpion 78 km from full to empty....
A friend with reader of EEPROM says me I don't have the original map.

I need the original file as soon as possible... Anyone can help me?


RSVmille mod. 2003 130cv written on 27C256 in dil format.
I can upload my file....



Many thanks to who may saves my race holiday....


Bye :thumbup
 
Hi mille, and welcome to the zone :thumbup Can you post a picture of the actual EPROM?

Do you mean the acceleration of the bike isn't very good? If you are only getting 78km from full to empty, then that equates to just over 50 miles.

Is the bike surging? Does it feel like the engine is cutting out and then suddenly accelerating hard?
 
I don't have the eprom in this moment, but eprom is a simply DIL 28pin.

BIke don't surge but it takes a very long time to take RPM comparing a ducati torque for example. I run with -1 front sproke....


Please see model in my garage...
 
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Ok, have you checked the spark plugs and the leads? From your description, it sounds like the fuel isn't getting burnt as it should. I'd be surprised if the map on the EPROM is causing the problem.

You say your friend has an EPROM reader and the map isn't original. Can I ask how he knows the map isn't original??? Since without having an original map for comparison i'd say it would be impossible to tell.

Start with checking the plugs and the leads, try the bike out and let us know :thumbup

p.s is the bike fitted with a Power Commander?
 
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I have a Termignono file in .bin format and Arrow and standard 2001 files in Raw format if they are any good.

bikes not still restricted is it ?
 
Ok, have you checked the spark plugs and the leads? From your description, it sounds like the fuel isn't getting burnt as it should. I'd be surprised if the map on the EPROM is causing the problem.

You say your friend has an EPROM reader and the map isn't original. Can I ask how he knows the map isn't original??? Since without having an original map for comparison i'd say it would be impossible to tell.

Start with checking the plugs and the leads, try the bike out and let us know :thumbup

p.s is the bike fitted with a Power Commander?
Bike has just done a regular 15000 oil change, filter, sparks and all seems perfect. It's true that I have some fuel refuse in the plastic pipe under the tank (sorry for my english)...

My friend is a tuner on ducati, he deduces it from the code. I don't know - fully- his motivations.....but normally He gives me a great job...

No power commander, but there are some "different seal style" on ecu box....

Thanks for helping me.
 
I have a Termignono file in .bin format and Arrow and standard 2001 files in Raw format if they are any good.

bikes not still restricted is it ?

Bike is original fitted, but can be useful have a comparison.... Is the same thing ECU for bike 2001(118cv) and 2003(130cv)?
 
Forgive me and my questions, dog chasing his tail! You say that the bike has just been serviced, is this when the problem started? Was the bike running ok before the service? Which pipe under the tank do you have fuel refuse in, and by refuse do you mean rubbish/sediment? Your english is fine sir, don't worry about it :)

If you PM spoonz then i'm sure he'll send the files over to you like he has offered :thumbup
 
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Forgive me and my questions, dog chasing his tail! You say that the bike has just been serviced, is this when the problem started? Was the bike running ok before the service? Which pipe under the tank do you have fuel refuse in, and by refuse do you mean rubbish/sediment? Your english is fine sir, don't worry about it :)

If you PM spoonz then i'm sure he'll send the files over to you like he has offered :thumbup

Sorry... I try to explane... I service the bike but matter still there...
I bought the bike with comsuption problem, when I tried it I did not get this detail.... now I have 500 km on it.


For refuse I have a little capped transparent pipe out from air filter box that sediment some fuel. Bike at minimum RPM has a little fuel smell...:dunno
 
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Forgive me and my questions, dog chasing his tail! You say that the bike has just been serviced, is this when the problem started? Was the bike running ok before the service? Which pipe under the tank do you have fuel refuse in, and by refuse do you mean rubbish/sediment? Your english is fine sir, don't worry about it :)

If you PM spoonz then i'm sure he'll send the files over to you like he has offered :thumbup


Sorry... I try to explane... I service the bike but matter still there...
I bought the bike with comsuption problem, when I tried it I did not get this detail.... now I have 500 km on it.


For refuse I have a little capped transparent pipe out from air filter box that sediment some fuel. Bike at minimum RPM has a little fuel smell...:dunno
 
The sediment in the bottom of the transparent pipe is oil sir, so no need to worry there and perfectly normal. Pull the cap and it'll be gone :thumbup

Have you checked the oil since the service to see if it smells of petrol? All fuel pipes checked for leaks? What did the spark plugs look like that you took out? Did they look different between the rear cylinder and the front cylinder? Any of the 4 black and wet?

The low fuel consumption issue suggests to me at least (spoonz help me here please!) that the fuel is being supplied by the pump no problem and is then either leaking before entering the throttle bodies, or there is a spark issue and the fuel going into the cylinders is not being burnt fully.
 
The sediment in the bottom of the transparent pipe is oil sir, so no need to worry there and perfectly normal. Pull the cap and it'll be gone :thumbup

Have you checked the oil since the service to see if it smells of petrol? All fuel pipes checked for leaks? What did the spark plugs look like that you took out? Did they look different between the rear cylinder and the front cylinder? Any of the 4 black and wet?

The low fuel consumption issue suggests to me at least (spoonz help me here please!) that the fuel is being supplied by the pump no problem and is then either leaking before entering the throttle bodies, or there is a spark issue and the fuel going into the cylinders is not being burnt fully.

Unfortunately I did'nt see old-spark during services... I will look for problem on the pump... no leak at pipe... there is a little smell of petrol in the oil, and there is a changing of colour into dark brown ...the smell of petrol is all around the bike when engine is running and the bike is on the stand....:roll
 
I would say it either has a light misfire or bad setup Tb wise.

It could be map related if someone did there own eeprom code and made a mess of it big time i suppose. Which i think is his assumption here.

Mille if you want to post in Italian to make it easier then i can translate that via an Italian student staying here.

Yes pics later. :thumbup
 
sounds too complicated for me really but is there any chance the fuel is leaking from somewhere, 50 miles to the tank is seriously bad news.
 
Mille if you want to post in Italian to make it easier then i can translate that via an Italian student staying here.

Yes pics later. :thumbup

I'm sure I need to ride to Devon today for some Italian lessons.....:biggrin il vostro allievo gradirebbe un giro del pillion di nuovo all'Italia?

Mille, remove the plugs that you have in and check them to see and let us know what each of them are like. At least then it should give a clue as to whether the fuel is disappearing before reaching the cylinders, or is not being burnt when reaching the cylinders :thumbup
 
I would say it either has a light misfire or bad setup Tb wise.

It could be map related if someone did there own eeprom code and made a mess of it big time i suppose. Which i think is his assumption here.

Mille if you want to post in Italian to make it easier then i can translate that via an Italian student staying here.

Yes pics later. :thumbup


Eprom is 27C256 (dip 28) like this one (socketed)
http://progshop.com/images/products/chips/DIP28UV-500-342.jpg
 
I'm sure I need to ride to Devon today for some Italian lessons.....:biggrin il vostro allievo gradirebbe un giro del pillion di nuovo all'Italia?

Mille, remove the plugs that you have in and check them to see and let us know what each of them are like. At least then it should give a clue as to whether the fuel is disappearing before reaching the cylinders, or is not being burnt when reaching the cylinders :thumbup


This is possible to do.... :thumbup
 
Have a good look at the vacuum lines around the throttle bodies. Any splits or lose hoses mess the fuelling big time.

I would also check the Throttle position sensor adjustment in case too.

I reckon your chip is the Aprilia Ti race can version. They weren't always labled as such.

Will send my maps shortly
 

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