In 2 minds had delkavic on me gsx1400 no issues dropped it doing bout 90 n it slid n slid n slid sparks where amazing , delkavic ad scrapes on the bindings n nice blueing, my mate has it now and put a carbon sleave over it n rebanded it still sounds nice on his cbr, , ad Akros on me zx10r the originals were louder , got a full akro system on me cb1300 but that's not over exciting, what I'm thinking is I should wait n hope some poor ebayer is skint before Xmas n get some mivvs for a cpl ov hundred :thumbup