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anyone got a before & after dyno using a Hooked kit !?

T Virus

T Virus

Joined Apr 2009
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i know everyone says they are awesome & dont doubt they must improve driveability... & they certainly look the dogs danglies... just wondering if anyone has bothered checking their bike for fueling/bhp after fitting & what differences were !? :confused

im going to order a Dr Rossi chip... so might aswell go the whole hog & get Hooked... & going for the earlier bigger air collector box !! :doug

anyone had a dyno since fitting... im hoping il get mine (standardish) done this sat... along with a tune up... girlfriend pending... for a baseline !! :biggrin

probably follow up in about 3 weeks with the newer mods !! :eatcorn
 
Dont realy have it, I like the stock filter :)

But if you will put his filter on the bike, then its no point to get the bigger collector (rubber thingy) bigger. You will loose most of the air-ram effect anyway :)
 
Now that is a sensible request!!! It would be very interesting to see the results. I personally believe that the ram air effect is preferable to an open air box. I have the 'Badger' cut down box, but with a dirty great filter over the intake trumpets - just in case there are any leaks at the tank to box joint.

Paul
 
dyno won't show you the effect of the ram air either. be interesting to see what difference there is in low to midrange though
 
Dynos will be coming in the middle of July. 51 throttle bodies , 57 throttle bodies also low and high velocity stacks .This will include a Rossi custom chip and throttle bodies being set up by Griff. We will see,Im interested by this ram air affect however. When do you suppose this happens ? at 40 60 80 100 110 120 mph well actually somewhere between 110-140 depending on head wind ,interested the people talk about Ram air we must all do a lot of track work :eatcorn

Craig
 
My understanding of ram air is that it only comes into play at high road speeds...these V60 engines are all about producing early torque and midrange power...this is where the most performance is gained ( and all the fun on the throttle)..therefore the kit made by the HOOKED does this very well. Along with a good gearing set the RSV comes alive...who really wants anymore than 160mph ...too me its all about what happens when you crack the throttle from low speed or when you are hunting out of a nice corner looking to get to the next as quick as. :D Anyone can go fast in a straightline...how boring! :eatcorn
 
It depends what you want.

On the track I almost never go bellow 7k rpm. And low end power (althou great on the street) doesnt come into play. And when you come to the straight you are usualy full throttle before the start (or 2 tuns early) and in the upper revs and second count everywhere not just in the turns :)
And the speed is 150+ kmh most of the time and you want all the hp she can give :D

But I think for the street its a good idea.
 
Which is fine on a big open track, but next to no good on some of the small tracks we have in the UK.
Theres no way that you can be pulling 7k on a hairpin bend (like in Druids at Brands Hatch etc)

The tight twisty UK tracks require max torque at low to mid revs (The only exception's being Thruxton & Snetterton where you are on max rpm for very long periods of time and therefore the ram effect will be working at its best)

Dolenc said:
It depends what you want.

On the track I almost never go bellow 7k rpm. And low end power (althou great on the street) doesnt come into play.
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That why I put the "It depends what you want." sentence in :D

But In my opinion, rsv is strong low and mid rpm, it lacks power in the upper region, thats way I think it should get improvements there.

In the country next by, we have a slow supermoto track (this one) and I only need to use the 2nd gear.

In the twistier parts power doesnt come into play its more in the driver.

When you are on a fast track (or section), then you need power.

But I agree with you, to each its own, Im just pointing out how I look at things.
 
I would have to agree that the RSV downfall is at the top end.

I've only had my Mille for a few weeks and have found that whilst the low and mid torque is great for some corner exits, it just doesn't have the high rpm pull you need.

It's like a turbo diesel v petrol normally aspirated. Big slug of torque, but runs out of breath a bit...

I ran in the fast group at Mallory 2 weeks ago at had loads of stomp out of Edwinas and Devils Elbow, but got overtaken on the main straight by quick 600's...

Looking forward to seeing these dyno graphs though!
 
Totally agree to each his own, it makes very interesting reading (peoples opinions)and also enables people to pick up good pointers from time to time.

An RSV will never ever have a searing top end (well up to a certain point I guess) its not designed that way. If you are only interested in how fast you are going at 22000 rpm by an il4 600.

I wonder if people get too wrapped up in horsepower figures, lets face it most of us cannot use the bike legally to its fullest potential on the road and a trackday is just that its not about racing but enjoying yourself at a pace you are comfortable with and again that does not require MotoGP states of tune.

So do what you want (generic statement)the way you want and enjoy ........

Dolenc said:
That why I put the "It depends what you want." sentence in :D

But In my opinion, rsv is strong low and mid rpm, it lacks power in the upper region, thats way I think it should get improvements there.

In the country next by, we have a slow supermoto track (this one) and I only need to use the 2nd gear.

In the twistier parts power doesnt come into play its more in the driver.

When you are on a fast track (or section), then you need power.

But I agree with you, to each its own, Im just pointing out how I look at things.
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I don't think Dolenc was saying that the RSV is a bad bike, his point was just that if you want to improve it you should really look at its weakest area.

I used to race (only motocross) and you would often find club racers like me would often concentrate on the parts of the track that we enjoyed the most and were best at- it's human nature.

Really we should practice the things we hate the most, as that's where we have the best potential for improvement.

It's the same for the RSV. We all know it has plenty of low down power, so why bust your balls trying to get more? The area it lacks the most is top end, so surely better to concentrate on that?

I personally feel very comfortable on a 600, and in fact did the last session at mallory on an 04 ex BSS supersport 600 with HRC kit parts. It was a pleasure to ride, but flat below 9,000rpm.

Above 10,000rpm though I was pulling in 1000cc in line 4's!

Trackdays are about fun, but for me that includes having a bike that satisfies and compliments you, not frustrates you.

Perhaps we are bhp obsessed, but perhaps that's why we all mod our bikes and this is in a bhp/dyno thread?

(Sorry, just read that back to myself after posting and it sounds a bit bitchy. I'll also point out I sold my 2007 R6 for the RSV as I wanted something less mental to ride! See? I'm not anti v-twin after all!)
 
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im more interested in the low-mid power... & wether it fills in the dip @ the 5000rpm mark & wether its noticable on the dyno... but saying that... its also nice to know its making good numbers for its state of tune... ie 115bhp vs 76bhp like in an earlier thread !! :eek:

is the 2002 RSV a true ram air system then... iv had bikes with scoops... but they werent proper ram air !? :confused
 
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Dolenc said:
It depends what you want.

On the track I almost never go bellow 7k rpm. And low end power (althou great on the street) doesnt come into play. And when you come to the straight you are usualy full throttle before the start (or 2 tuns early) and in the upper revs and second count everywhere not just in the turns :)
And the speed is 150+ kmh most of the time and you want all the hp she can give :D

But I think for the street its a good idea.
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Absolutely agree, was only speaking for a streetie, not a track bike. :thumbup
 
I run a "hooked" kit and a Dr Rossi chip, power is great, my mate on his GSXR1000K8 has trouble staying with me until i am above 9000rpm, then reels me in.. I find i can get on the throttle a little earlier than him and the initial kick up the pants i get normally has me to the next corner in front.. Obviously.. his bike is making over 180bhp so, on long open sections... I'm toast, were going to knockhill in 2 weeks, first time i have had my RSV on a track.. so will be a learning process.... I cant wait to learn though...lmao
 
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