2000 RSV Mille R- any cheap and easy performance mods?

Hi all,

I've been looking over the zone to see what performance mods I can dig up for my 2000 RSV Mille R. I haven't been very successful, I must say. It would be much easy if there was a performance mods forum, moderators.:biggrin

I had a TL1000S before the Ape, and I must say that it felt a lot stronger at the top end. Gearing was slightly lower, however, and for under NZ$80 I had gained about 6hp, with a fairly stable 4hp jump from about 5000rpms to redline thanks to a well-known air-box mod. The bike would happily accelerate to an indicated 260km/h and I once got 270km/h out of it on a long straight. I don't do that all the time, obviously, and the Ape is far superior around the twisties, but every now and then I like to blow the cobwebs out of my brain and the bike.

Are there any simple mods available for my old twin-spark donk?

My bike has standard gearing, a PC3, K & N filter and akropovic can. After being dynoed in Britain by a previous owner, the Akropovic and PC3 only netted an extra 2hp but with cleaner hp curve.

As the gearing is too tall for NZ roads, I'd happily do the gearing change to 16/44, but am a bit worried about the speedo being out afterwards. Cops here love revenue-collecting along my favourite weekend road. Does a 16/44 sprocket set affect the speedo by much and is there a way to make it accurate after the gearing change?

Forgive my ignorance, but does a chip for the ECU do anything that the PC3 doesn't already do?

What is the collector pipe mod? People do it, but I can't find any info on what it entails.

Is running an open airbox a useful mod for my bike? Again, I see that some people do this, but not much info about what advantages it has/which models it is suitable for, etc.

Sorry for the silly questions! Hope someone is patient enough to answer them all!

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year to everyone on the Zone.

Harry

Awesome. Some interesting replies already. I'll have a look at the chip but I'm sure it's stock because I have a big pile of service records and receipts dating from new and there is nothing in there about a chip. Was a bit disappointed with 112 ponies but hopefully a few bits and pieces and the bike will be transformed.

Cheers - getting a quick education here!

Paul Ali said:

Hi harry,

As far as i understand it a chip can improve the timing whereas a powercommander can only improve fueling. Really the pc should be refining the gains you get from an aftermarket chip. I have a gabro chip which improved for me responsiveness, smoothness and power i dont have a pc. Do you know what chip you already have in the bike i think the standard in a 2000 is a RP58

You should find some threads on the collector mod, its a cheap but great mod you will find a bit of a flat spot in the accelleration around 5-6k, the collector mod irons this out, its also supposed to give nearly as good gains as having a dual exhaust system for a fraction of the price.

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Cheers - replied to your post without the quote, sorry.

RSVMark said:

Hey again Harry.

As nikfubar said the speedo pickup is just above the rear brake caliper, so changing the gearing doesn't affect your speedo at all. I just sold my old RSV and bought another, and the first thing I'll do (after sorting the front braking issue) Is change the gearing to 16/44. Did it on the last bike and it really does transform them. I would recommend to anyone without a doubt. Go get it done and come back to tell us how much you love the new midrange punch!

-Mark

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Thanks, Mark. I've been on the phone to Adam at Motorcycles Down Under and he recommends the gearing change. Top gear is just too high, although the 4-bangers I ride with weren't getting away from me round corners on our last AkaroaGP, the bike could definitely accelerate harder on the straight. Funny that I never got any negative comments when riding the TL, but now that I have an Italian bike, the "tractor", "breaking-down" and "things falling off" comments I've had to put up with are beginning to pall. The Ape is twice the bike the TL was, and so far has been far more reliable.

Paul Ali said:

Hi harry,

As far as i understand it a chip can improve the timing whereas a powercommander can only improve fueling. Really the pc should be refining the gains you get from an aftermarket chip. I have a gabro chip which improved for me responsiveness, smoothness and power i dont have a pc. Do you know what chip you already have in the bike i think the standard in a 2000 is a RP58

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The chip in the bike at the moment is an A63 - the standard chip for the 2000 model. So a chip will be on the cards very shortly as well as getting a mate to weld in the collector pipe mod.

Have to do my homework on how to reset the PC3 to a neutral map once I get another chip and do the pipe mod.

I've found the bike really doesn't like running under 3000rpms i.e. it won't pull cleanly away. Some people have reported their bikes pull away smoothly from 2000rpms after chipping. I don't make a habit of it but sometimes out of tight roundabouts it's easier to leave it in a higher gear and open the throttle slowly until over 3000rpms than have things get snatchy in a lower gear.

Looking forward to getting the bike sorted!

Now I have to decide which chip to buy...

RSVMark said:

Do you have the USB or serial PC3? If it's the USB then go to here and download the PC3 software. Then go here and download the blank map, then you're sorted. Make sure when you plug the PC3 into your computer that you turn the bike on, as the PC3 is powered from the injectors and they only pressurize then turn off. If you've got a serial PC3 you will need to go down to Dick Smiths and buy a serial to usb adaptor, install the drivers for that and plug it in that way...

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Awesome! The PC£ is a USB one so I'll do what you suggest. Cheers!

redratbike said:

think that chip doesnt allow trim pot changes either so the worse out of the standard chips

collector ,for 98-00 bikes single rear mod only...but good gains..as good as the twin modded headers as these early ones flow better in the first place.copy the positioning of my pipe and it will clear your frame...make sure there are no lips to upset the flow,i had a renegade twin system ,then fitted this collector..no difference..had really good feedback on these and have supplied about 10 so farhere is scotts bikes dyno ..he's a kiwi in essex..lol

see how it takes out the dip.
you'll really notice the "pull" out of corners.
an airbox mod and decent chip will really complement the collector....if you have the cash go for an advanced map ..thats individual map per cylinder..really good gains.
then its 57's.....slotted cam sprockets to get the timing spot on.
after that its bigbore/headwork and cams but thats mega bucks

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Hey thanks for that! I'm helping a mate weld up some expansion chambers for his NS400 this week so I'll do the exhaust mod at the same time. Guy I know has a box of chips somewhere so I'll see what he has. Probably nothing special, but worth checking first. A gearing change is happening very soon too.